Mar 08, 2022 Board Meeting

IT'S NOW 5:00 O'CLOCK MARCH, THE 8TH, 2022, I CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MRS. WAYMACK.

HERE. MR. HUNTER.

HERE. MR. BROWN.

HERE. MR. CARMICHAEL.

HERE. MR. WEBB. HERE. THANK YOU.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR OUR CLOSED SESSION.

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I FURTHER MOVE THAT SUCH DISCUSSIONS SHALL BE LIMITED TO A THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, B

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THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. CARMICHAEL. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

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DO WE NEED OUR BOOKS? RETURN FROM CLOSED SESSION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO COME OUT FROM CLOSED SESSION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIED TO THE BEST OF EACH BOARD MEMBERS KNOWLEDGE ONE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS WAS DISCUSSED AND TWO ONLY MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] MOTION WERE DISCUSSED.

AND I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. CARMICHAEL. MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. HUNTER.

YES, THANK YOU.

THE BOARD IS NOW OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL BE IN RECESS UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK.

[6. SUPERINTENDENT REPORT-6:40 pm]

OUR WORK SESSION WILL BE CHAIRED BY BETSY DREWRY, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS MR. STOKE AND MR. WHITTEN.

THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED SOME EXCEL WORKSHEETS THAT FOR WHICH THEY HAVE SCORED THEIR PRIORITIES FOR BOTH TAX RATES AND EXPENDITURE INITIATIVES.

BOTH DEPARTMENT HAD REQUESTS AND A REQUEST FOR A PAY INCREASE.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK MR. YOUNG IF HE COULD BRING THE PROJECTOR DOWN AND CHANGE TO CART TWO AND I WILL BRING THAT WORKSHEET UP.

OK, AND I WILL START WITH A DISCUSSION ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.

THE BOARD DID RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION AFTER OUR LAST WORK SESSION WHEN THE ASSESSOR WAS ABLE TO OR THE ACTING ASSESSOR WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ESTIMATES FOR US.

WE HAVE OUTLINED THE REVENUE ESTIMATE BASED ON THE EXISTING TAX RATE OF EIGHTY SIX CENTS AND HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDED YOU WITH INFORMATION, TAKING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SEVENTY SIX CENTS.

OF COURSE, THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSED VALUES DID GROW, WHICH MEANS THAT EVEN IF YOU DROP THE TAX RATE, THE REVENUE MAY STILL BE HIGHER THAN IT IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED.

MR. STOKE MADE AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO TO DROP THE REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE TO EIGHTY THREE CENTS.

THAT TAX RATE IMPACTS NOT ONLY OUR REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE BUDGET ESTIMATE, IT ALSO IMPACTS OUR TAXES ON MOBILE HOMES BECAUSE THEY ARE TAXED AT THE REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE AND OUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAXES.

SO WHEN THAT RATE CHANGES, THOSE REVENUES ALL ARE IMPACTED.

THE REAL PROPERTY TAX IS SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR

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MOBILE HOME TAX IS NOT SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION, NOR IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE TAX.

SO AT THE EACH PENNY IS VALUED FOR REAL ESTATE TAXES AT THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE THOUSAND ON MOBILE HOMES, ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO, AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE TAX AT JUST UNDER TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND AT TWENTY SEVEN NINE ZERO SEVEN. SO EACH PENNY HAS AN IMPACT OF REDUCING THE REVENUE BY THOSE AMOUNTS.

SO AT EIGHTY SIX CENTS, REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE WOULD BE BUDGETED AT TWENTY NINE POINT FIVE THREE EIGHT MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF THREE POINT NINE MILLION.

OUR MOBILE HOME TAXES WOULD BE BUDGETED AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND, CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND FOR AN INCREASE OF THIRTY-FOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. TAXES AT EIGHTY SIX CENTS WOULD BE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION, AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT A MILLION EIGHT EIGHTY.

SO WITH MR. STOKES ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THE TOTAL CHANGE IN REVENUE FROM ALL OF THESE SOURCES WOULD BE JUST OVER THREE POINT THIRTY-SIX MILLION, AND THAT IS ONE POINT ONE EIGHT LESS THAN EIGHTY SIX CENTS.

SO THE COUNTY SOURCES WOULD INCREASE FOR REAL ESTATE, MOBILE HOME AND PUBLIC SERVICE BY TWO POINT ONE ONE TWO POINT ONE NINE NINE MILLION AND THE SCHOOL DIVISION REAL ESTATE PORTION WOULD INCREASE BY ONE MILLION ONE SIXTY FOUR.

THE BOARD DID PROVIDE INITIAL FEEDBACK ON A RECOMMENDED RATE FOR FY 23.

AND THIS WAS WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS INDICATED, MRS. WAYMACK, AND CERTAINLY THIS IS STILL YOUR DECISION.

MRS. WAYMACK INDICATED THAT SHE AGREES WITH THE RECOMMENDED EIGHTY-THREE CENTS, AS DID MR. HUNTER AND MR. CARMICHAEL, MR. WEBB AGREED, BUT SAID PERHAPS TO DROP IT ANOTHER PENNY TO EIGHTY-TWO CENTS, AND MR. BROWN INDICATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO TO EIGHTY TWO CENTS.

SO IS THERE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS OR IS EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, WILLING OR ABLE TO STICK WITH THEIR INITIAL ASSESSMENT? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT REVENUE ITEM BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS? YES, SIR. MRS. DREWRY.

I MEAN, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE, AND WE NORMALLY HAVE TO PUBLISH A RATE TO ADVERTISE.

YES, SIR, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN THAT WE CAN ALWAYS END UP THE FINAL BUDGET CAN GO LESS THAN THAT.

BUT WE NEVER CAN GO ABOVE.

SO IF WE ADVERTISE AT EIGHTY-THREE, WE EITHER HAVE TO BE EIGHTY-THREE OR LESS CORRECT.

SO I WOULD BE FINE.

IF THIS IS JUST FOR ME, I WOULD BE FINE IF WE ADVERTISE THAT THE EIGHTY-THREE AND THEN

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I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS AT ALL.

SO FOR MYSELF, SINCE I SAID EIGHTY-TWO AS A YES, I MEAN, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE EIGHTY-THREE FOR US TO DO THE ADVERTISEMENT.

NO, NO, NO. IT'S NOT A A MOTION.

SHE'S JUST SHE'S ASKING FOR THE CENSUS RIGHT NOW.

AND CERTAINLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT TO INCLUDE IN OUR INTRODUCED BUDGET ON THE 22ND.

SO, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND CERTAINLY CHANGING FROM EIGHTY THREE TO EIGHTY TWO WOULD PROBABLY IMPACT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE BOARD ON THE EXPENDITURE CHOICES AND CERTAINLY WOULD IMPACT THE TRANSFER TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AGAIN FOR CONSENSUS ON WHAT TO INCLUDE IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET THAT YOU'LL BE PRESENTED ON THE 2022ND.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY.

CERTAINLY. I THINK MR. BROWN STATED IT WELL AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH HIS STATEMENT.

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SECOND GIVING YOU ENOUGH DIRECTION.

YES, SIR. BUT AGAIN, IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET ON THE 22ND, IF WE INCLUDE EIGHTY-THREE CENTS, IT WILL INCLUDE AN INTRODUCED TRANSFER TO SCHOOLS AT THAT.

AT THAT NUMBER. YES.

YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO.

SO. MS. [INAUDIBLE] ONE SECOND, BUT I AGREE AS WELL.

EIGHTY THREE CENT CAME ON THE BOARD 15 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THE TAX RATE WAS EIGHTY CENT AND WE HAD ONE UP TO 86 IN 15 YEARS.

AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADVERTISING AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SEE SOME GOOD CHALLENGES TO GO ANY LOWER THAN EIGHTY-THREE.

THAT'S CUTTING HALF OF OUR TAX INCREASE OF WHAT WE STARTED AT FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, AND LIKE MR. BROWN SAID, NOT TO PLAY THAT YO-YO EFFECT AND GOING UP AND DOWN, BUT TO START AT EIGHTY-THREE AND ADVERTISE, I'M FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.

OK. ANYMORE COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND MOVING ON TO THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX DISCUSSION THAT THIS WAS TWOFOLD THE FIRST.

SORRY. THE THE FIRST GROUPING OF RATES.

TAKE THE EXISTING TAX RATE OR TAKES A LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF CHANGING FROM OUR EXISTING FOUR DOLLARS TWENTY FIVE CENTS DOWN TO THREE FIFTY, AND WE HAVE ALSO GIVEN YOU THE

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THIS REVENUE SOURCE IS SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISION AND WE ALSO WRAPPED INTO THAT POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION OF ELIMINATING THAT MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FEE.

A LOT OF FOLKS REFER TO THAT AS THE DECAL FEE THAT WE DON'T GET DECALS ANYMORE.

SO THIS FIRST GROUPING OF NUMBERS ONE THROUGH SEVEN SHOWS THE IMPACT OF DROPPING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE SEEN AN UNUSUAL ANOMALY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

MRS. LANE DID A PRESENTATION AT ONE OF YOUR PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS TO DESCRIBE HOW THE REDUCED INVENTORY, THE INTEREST RATES, THE PANDEMIC IMPACT ON THE SUPPLY CHAIN HAS CAUSED THE VALUE OF VEHICLES TO INCREASE AND FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW, THAT HAS BEEN THE OCCURRENCE AND THAT IS QUITE UNUSUAL, AND A SIZABLE NUMBER OF OUR VEHICLES FOR THE CURRENT BOOK YEAR ARE SEEING A GROWTH IN VALUE AND IT IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN

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AND IT SHOWS YOU THE IMPACT OF THOSE CHANGES.

DROPPING FROM FOUR TWENTY-FIVE TO FOUR TWENTY FOUR REDUCES REVENUES BY FORTY THOUSAND ONE EIGHTY FIVE. THE SECOND GROUPING AND, OF COURSE, THE ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED WITH MR. STOKES ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION.

IT SHOWS THAT SAME DROP IN THE RATE, BUT COUPLES WITH THAT ELIMINATING THAT MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FEE.

SO WE WOULD NOT ONLY REDUCE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, BUT WE WOULD DROP THE MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FEE OR ELIMINATED ALTOGETHER.

THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, I BELIEVE CHESTERFIELD, MAYBE ONE OF THEM THAT IS DROPPING THE RATE AND CUTTING THAT IN HALF, BUT I'VE NOT HEARD OF OTHERS WHO ARE CONSIDERING ELIMINATING THAT.

SO, SO AGAIN, HIS ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DROP TO FOUR DOLLARS AND TO ELIMINATE THAT MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FEE, WHICH STILL MEANS AN INCREASE IN OVERALL COUNTY RESOURCES OF TWO POINT FIFTY FIVE MILLION.

AND THE SHARE THAT WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY IS ONE POINT FIVE MILLION AND TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION, A MILLION TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND NINE SIXTY THREE.

SO THE BOARD MEMBERS DID WEIGH IN AND I'M GOING TO FREEZE THIS SO THAT WE CAN SEE.

THE BOARD MEMBERS DID WEIGH IN ON THEIR RECOMMENDED RATES.

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MR. CARMICHAEL SUGGESTED THREE DOLLARS AND NINETY NINE CENTS AND MRS. WAYMACK CONCURRED WITH THAT, BUT ALSO MRS. WAYMACK INDICATED THAT SHE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THREE NINETY.

MR. HUNTER AND MR. BROWN INDICATED THREE NINETY AND MR. WEBB WAS PERHAPS ON THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO THAT WERE AT THREE NINETY NINE AND TWO OR TWO THAT WERE AT THREE NINETY AND A COUPLE OF MAYBES.

WE ADDED THREE NINETY FIVE TODAY, FOR YOU TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. SO THE THREE NINETY FIVE WOULD MEAN AN INCREASE IN RESOURCES OR THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX OF TWO POINT THREE MILLION.

THE COUNTY'S PORTION WOULD BE ONE POINT FOUR ZERO SEVEN AND THE SCHOOL DIVISION WOULD BE AT NINE FORTY FIVE.

SO THAT IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

BUT CERTAINLY THE THREE NINETY MEANS AN INCREASE IN RESOURCES OF TWO POINT ONE MILLION AND ONE POINT TWO EIGHT SEVEN WOULD BE THE COUNTY PORTION AND EIGHT SIXTY FOUR WOULD BE THE SCHOOL DIVISION PORTION OF THAT INCREASE IN REVENUE.

DISCUSSION.

WILL HOLD THAT SLIDE RIGHT THERE, ONE SECOND.

SURE.

OK, MADAM CHAIR.

YES, SIR. MS. DREWRY, I KNOW I HAD PUT IN THERE THE THREE NINETY AND I KNOW THROUGH CORRESPONDING BACK AND FORTH WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THREE NINETY-NINE.

I'M WILLING TO SPLIT THE HAIRS AND I'M WILLING TO AGREE TO THREE NINETY-FIVE AS WELL.

I AS WELL MR. BROWN. OK, SO YOU CAN PUT ME IN THE YES COLUMN UNDER UNDERNEATH THAT AND THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER WE WOULD ADVERTISE AT AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES, BUT WE JUST CAN'T GO UP FROM THAT ONCE WE ADVERTISE.

AND MRS. WAYMACK, DID I HEAR YOU? YES. YES, WELL, OK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HANG ON JUST FOR A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, ON THE THREE NINETY-FIVE. HE MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

OK, THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. WE WERE GOING TO GET THERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ANYWAY.

I KNOW IT.

TIME IS UP.

OK, WE'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET.

TIME IS UP. [LAUGHING] OK.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING.

SO WITH THE DIRECTION THAT I'VE RECEIVED ON THIS, I'M GOING TO MAKE A FEW EDITS TO THE RESOURCES BEFORE WE GET INTO THE OTHER DECISION POINTS.

IF THAT'S OK WITH THE BOARD, IT MAY TAKE ME JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

SO BEAR WITH ME.

OK.

I KNOW, ME TOO.

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RIGHT? MM HMM.

THREE NINETY-FIVE YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. I DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN AND WE'RE ALL BACKSEAT DRIVERS.

OK, WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT, YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED YET.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

[INAUDIBLE]. I WAS EVEN KEEPING UP WITH IT.

OK, SO NOW I'VE MADE THE REVENUE CHANGES, THE REAL ESTATE.

PUBLIC SERVICE AND MOBILE HOME REMAINS AT THE EIGHTY-THREE CENTS, SO THE BLUE SHADED AREAS DID NOT CHANGE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX SLIGHTLY REDUCED TO THREE NINETY FIVE.

SO THAT IS THE CHANGE THERE.

AND THAT DID SLIGHTLY IMPACT THE SCHOOL TRANSFER TOOK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES FROM THOSE CHANGES AFTER WE DO THE MUST DOS.

I'M GOING TO ELIMINATE THIS CONTINGENCY NUMBER FOR THE TIME BEING.

JUST SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE TRUE RESOURCES ARE PRIOR TO GETTING INTO THE CHOICES POINT SEVEN NINE TWO MILLION.

AFTER WE'VE SATISFIED THE SCHOOL TRANSFER TO THE LEVEL THAT THE REVENUE SHARING CALCULATION DICTATES.

AND NOW YOUR CHOICES.

THE BOARD DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE CRATER AREA AGENCY ON AGING REQUEST, ALONG WITH THE HOPEWELL PRINCE GEORGE HEALTHY FAMILIES I DID AND PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.

THEY SUBMITTED INFORMATION ON THEY COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT WERE SERVED IN 2020 AND OR 2021, THE LATEST STATISTICS THEY HAD AVAILABLE AND BY CONSENSUS, THE BOARD DID AGREE TO FUND BOTH OF THOSE. SO I AM GOING TO ADD THOSE TO THE LIST SINCE THERE WAS CONSENSUS TO DO THOSE THINGS.

THE NEXT ITEM WAS A REQUEST FROM THE SWIFT CREEK THEATER.

WE DID NOT HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THAT AND TO THE CHOICES.

THESE NEXT ITEMS SHADED IN PURPLE WERE AGREED TO BY CONSENSUS, BUT THEY ARE NOT FROM THE

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[INAUDIBLE] WOULD CONTINUE TO COME FROM THE TOURISM FUND AND THE BOARD DID AGREE TO RESTORE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO BOTH RICHARD BLAND AND JOHN TYLER FOR THE AMOUNTS LISTED HERE BUT USING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.

THE NEXT ITEM WAS A REQUEST THAT WAS RECENTLY SUBMITTED BY MISJUDGE ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR TASK FORCE.

THERE WAS NOT NECESSARILY A ONE OR LISTED AS A TOP PRIORITY BY THE BOARD.

ONE DID NOT AGREE TO THE REQUEST.

I BELIEVE MR. STOKE DID ADMINISTRATIVELY RECOMMEND CREATING A BUDGET AND FUNDING SOMETHING FOR FY 23.

MR. STOKE DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED FOR THAT? MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION RATHER THAN CREATING A LINE ITEM BUDGET IN FY 23 FOR THIS ITEM, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS HAVE THE SENIOR TASK FORCE COME MARCH 22ND AT THE NEXT MEETING AS A COMMITTEE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND REQUEST FUNDING FOR PROJECTS SIMILAR TO WHEN THE U.S.

CENSUS COMPLETE COUNT COMMITTEE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD AS A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD TO REQUEST MARKETING FUNDS FOR THE U.S.

CENSUS, AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO DO SO.

SURE, THERE IS MONEY IN THE CONTINGENCY AND RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL JULY 1ST, WE COULD HAVE THE BOARD CONSIDER IT AS OF THE NEXT MEETING ON MARCH 22ND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED PLANS OF THE FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FOR THE R-U OK PROGRAM.

MM HMM. OK.

MADAM CHAIR, YES, SIR.

I'M ALREADY DEAD, I'M THE ONE THAT PRIMARILY ASKED, I THINK, FOR THE AGING AND THE HEALTHY FAMILIES BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS TO WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS NUMBERS OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT WERE DONATING ACTUALLY GO TO PRINCE GEORGE CITIZENS VERSUS OTHERS NOT BEING CRITICAL, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE OUR OWN.

UH, I'M OK WITH YOUR SUGGESTION, MR. STOKE. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THE REQUEST, THE WAY YOU STATED, SIR.

KIND OF FALLS IN LINE WITH ANY OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE.

WE DON'T REALLY GIVE THEM THEIR OWN BUDGET LINE ITEM.

IF THEY NEED SOMETHING, THEY WOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND WE WOULD FIGURE HOW WHERE THOSE MONIES WOULD COME FROM.

SO THAT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH OTHER GROUPS.

YEAH, I AGREE, TOO. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU OK? IS A GREAT PROGRAM, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE FUNDING IT IN THIS MANNER.

I DIDN'T KNOW.

THAT'S IT. MR. CARMICHAEL. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

YES. I'M ALSO ALL RIGHT WITH THAT.

OK, THANK YOU.

THE THE NEXT SERIES OF NUMBERINGS ARE THE PAY INCREASE CONSIDERATION FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, AND THE BOARD DID PROVIDE CONSENSUS UNANIMOUSLY TO PROVIDE THE FIVE PERCENT SCALE ADJUSTMENT AND THE STEP PLACEMENT FOR NON PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THAT? IF NOT, I CAN CERTAINLY MOVE THAT INTO THE.

MOVE THAT INTO THE FUNDING.

NO COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM, I'M GOOD.

NO COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

OK. SO THE NEXT WERE THE NEW POSITION REQUESTS MADE BY THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

THE FIRST ON THE LISTING OF FOUR POLICE OFFICERS.

MR. STOKE MADE ADMINISTRATOR RECOMMENDATION TO ADD ONE OF THE FOUR THAT WERE REQUESTED, AND WE HAD THREE BOARD MEMBERS AGREE TO THAT REQUEST AND TWO THAT DID NOT.

SO THAT WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS DECISION.

SO. AND THE NEXT ONE THAT AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE WAS FOR AN IT SUPPORT SPECIALIST, THREE OR FOUR BOARD MEMBERS DID AGREE TO THAT WITH MRS. WAYMACK VOTING IT AS A TWO PRIORITY.

SO THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ONE PRIORITY.

ON THE THE FINAL ONE THAT HAD.

I'M SORRY. MR. STOKE ALSO MADE AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO FUND PLANNING MANAGER.

TWO BOARD MEMBERS AGREED WITH THAT REQUEST, GIVING IT A ONE SCORING AND THREE SCORED AT A

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THE FINAL ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE A PART TIME VICTIM PROGRAM [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE VICTIM WITNESS PROGRAM, A FULL TIME ADVOCATE.

BOARD MEMBERS DID AGREE.

MR. HUNTER SCORED AT A THREE, BUT IT IS AND THE ONE REALM, IF YOU WILL.

SO DISCUSSION ON THOSE POSITIONS AND ALSO THERE WERE A FEW MORE THAT THAT BOARD MEMBERS DID SCORE AS A TOP PRIORITY.

MR. CARMICHAEL INDICATED THAT HE WOULD PLACE PRIORITY ON DOING MAYBE NOT A MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, BUT MAYBE A SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER, SOMEONE THAT MIGHT BE PROMOTED FROM WITHIN THE RANKS.

MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY AT THE GRADE THREE EIGHTEEN, BUT WOULD BE A WORKING FOREMAN, IF YOU WILL, 50/50, 50 PERCENT ADMIN, 50 PERCENT LINE WORK, IF YOU WILL, REPAIR WORK AND MRS. WAYMACK AGREED WITH THAT DISCUSSION, BUT THREE MEMBERS DID NOT PLACE PRIORITY ON THAT.

DISCUSSION ON THE POSITIONS.

DIRECTION ON WHICH ONES TO INCLUDE.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANYTHING THAT SCORED BELOW A TWO, WE CONSIDER MOVING INTO INTO THE FUNDING. AND THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS THE POLICE OFFICER.

COMMENTS, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A COMMENT.

I'LL AGREE TONIGHT.

THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THE POLICE OFFICER IN OUR INITIAL BUDGET.

BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THEM TONIGHT BECAUSE OF TIME.

BUT OVER THE NEXT COURSE OF WEEKS OR MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, I HAVE SOME OTHER CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT WILL DRIVE THAT OUT FOR ME AS WE GET CLOSER.

I'D RATHER HAVE IT IN THERE, AND IF IT COMES OUT, IT COMES OUT VERSUS NOT PUTTING IT IN THE INITIAL AND THEN TRYING TO ADD IT IN LATER.

SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF JUST AGAIN, THIS THIS WHOLE EXERCISE TONIGHT IS TO GET US TO A POINT TO A PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND THEN OVER THE MATTER OF WEEKS, WE HAVE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, VET THIS OUT IN MORE DETAIL TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL BUDGET.

SO I'LL GO WITH THAT TO GET THAT INCLUDED.

I'LL STAND WHERE I STAND ON THE REST OF MY NUMBERS, THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO.

OK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR A MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GIVE IT A ONE. I CAN MOVE IT UP SOME, BUT DON'T THINK ABOUT MY MOVE WOULD GIVE IT ENOUGH TO GET IT.

WHAT WOULD A THREE PUT THAT TO? THREE. YEAH, IT WOULD STILL REALLY BE BELOW IT, TOO, SO.

AND IF I MAY MR. MADAM CHAIR, YES, SIR.

I'M THINKING ON THE MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR WHEN A DIRECTOR CAME AND GENERAL SERVICES AND TOLD US WHAT HE WAS UP AGAINST.

I BELIEVE THE NEED IS THERE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE NEED IS THERE AT FULL TIME.

SO AND IT'S JUST WAS MY SUGGESTION THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO TRY TO PROMOTE WITHIN, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, FOR THE YEARS OF SERVICE. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELIGIBLE OR EVEN INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.

BUT A LOT OF THESE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS THAT COME ACROSS US WHEN WE SENT OUT BIDS FOR WHETHER, LAWN CARE AND OR SERVICES FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES.

THERE'S A LOT OF STIPULATIONS THAT.

FAR WITHIN THESE BEDS, AS FAR AS THE FERTILIZER, THE LIME, HOW OFTEN THEY DO GROUNDS, MAINTENANCE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO EVEN HAVE THE MANPOWER TO GO AROUND AND MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IS ACTUALLY GETTING DONE.

AND THAT WOULD HELP IF HE HAD SOMEONE THAT COULD SPEND HALF THE TIME GOING AROUND CHECKING THINGS THAT HE DON'T HAVE TIME TO HOLD THESE AGREEMENTS.

FOR WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, AUDIT THEIR PROCESSES, IF YOU WILL AND THAT WAS THE REASON I

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AND THAT'S THE REASON I DID WHAT I DID.

SO. I THOUGHT THE MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR WAS THE GARAGE PERSON, AM I MISTAKEN? GENERAL SERVICES.

GENERAL SERVICES.

OK. OK, THAT'S FINE.

MY BAD.

STILL STAYS WHERE I HAD RANKINGS.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY RANKING.

OK. I WILL ADD.

AT LEAST ONE POLICE OFFICER.

AND JUST MY COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN ON WHY I RANKED IT LIKE I DID, BECAUSE FOR SEVERAL YEARS ONGOING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD VACANCIES THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIELD EVERY SINGLE YEAR, THEY NEVER BEEN FULL STAFF, THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD THREE OR FOUR OPENINGS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO GET CLOSER TO GETTING THAT NUMBER UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE AND NOT JUST THROW MONEY INTO A BUDGET THAT IN TURN WILL COME OUT LATER AS BEING EXTRA MONEY THAT WASN'T SPENT SO AND THAT'S THE REASON I DID WHAT I DID.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE PLANNING MANAGER TWO BOARD MEMBERS DID VOTE, ONE WITH THREE VOTING FOR.

ANY COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.

OK. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS.

AGAIN, I DID INCLUDE ONE POLICE OFFICER, AN I.T.

COMPUTER SUPPORT SPECIALIST, AND MAKING THE PART TIME VICTIM WITNESS POSITION FULL TIME.

OK. THE NEXT REQUESTS, TWO REQUESTS COME FROM THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

SHE MADE A REQUEST TO RECLASSIFY ONE OF HER ASSISTANT CA'S TO BECOME A DEPUTY COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO THAT, AS WELL AS THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE VICTIM WITNESS COORDINATOR FROM A TWO TO A FOUR.

BASED ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THAT POSITION.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE BEFORE I MOVE THEM? OK. I'M THE THE NEXT REQUEST WAS MADE FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, AND I DID WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW INITIALLY THIS REQUEST WAS TO PROVIDE A CAREER DEVELOPMENT INCREASE FOR TWO DEPUTY COMMISSIONERS.

HOWEVER, ONE TENDERED THEIR RESIGNATION YESTERDAY, SO ONE OF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS WOULD NOT RECEIVE THE FUNDING.

THERE WERE NO LONGER EMPLOYED, AND WHEN THEY REPLACE THAT INDIVIDUAL, IT TAKES A WHILE.

THERE IS A PROCESS THAT ANY DEPUTY HAS TO GO THROUGH TO BECOME CERTIFIED AND NEED CAREER DEVELOPMENT. MADAM CHAIR.

YES, SIR. IT'S STILL A POTENTIAL TO [INAUDIBLE] BOARD WON'T FUND THAT ADDITIONAL SHERIFF THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR, RIGHT? DEPUTY.

IT'S THIS IS A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.

OH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT'S OK.

I JUST TUNED UP ON THE WRONG THING.

OK. YES, SIR.

THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE.

SO AGAIN, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT DROPPED FROM NINE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND TEN, DOWN TO FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED FIVE.

SO TWO BOARD MEMBERS GAVE THAT A PRIORITY, WITH MR. HUNTER VOTING AS A TWO AND MR. BROWN AND MR. WEBB VOTING NO OR VOTING A FOUR.

MADAM CHAIR, I'LL CHANGE MINE TO A TWO.

I MISREAD THAT LINE.

THAT'S ON ME. OK.

SO THAT IS AT A TWO.

YOU'RE NOT WE'RE NOT.

YOU CAN PUT MINE AT A THREE.

I'M NOT WILLING TO GO TWO.

SINCE IT'S HALF OF THE REQUEST IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS IS NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN OUR TOTAL BUDGET.

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IT GETS IT ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

IT'S TRUE THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO ONE DEPUTY OR YES, I WILL.

MM HMM.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT, THOSE ARE BOTH BELOW TWO, WE WILL WE WILL MOVE THEM TO THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE FUNDED.

OK. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEMS WERE SOME VARIOUS MOSTLY NON-SALARY REQUESTS.

THE FIRST WAS TO PROVIDE A PERMITTING COMPENSATION INCREASE FOR BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS OF FIFTY DOLLARS A MEETING.

THE BOARD DID NOT AGREE TO THAT.

UPGRADE TO MICROSOFT OFFICE 360, BOARD DID NOT AGREE TO THAT THIS YEAR.

INCREASE FOR TRAINING IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.

I THINK THE BOARD MEMBERS FELT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TURNOVER THAT HAS RECENTLY OCCURRED IN THAT OFFICE, WANTED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE NEW STAFFING WOULD BRING.

SORRY. OK.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE IT DEPARTMENT REQUESTED INCREASES IN THEIR TRAINING BUDGET BASED ON ESSENTIALLY THE STAFF SURVEY THAT WAS PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, BY AND LARGE, OUR EMPLOYEES RESPONDED THAT THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL TRAINING.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A TRAINING BUDGET FOR SIXTY PEOPLE, THAT'S JUST OVER FIFTEEN THOUSAND.

SO THE BOARD, THE VOTE ON THAT DOES BRING THAT BELOW IT TWO.

SO WE WOULD MOVE THAT ALONG WITH THE IT REQUEST TO INCREASE THE TRAINING BUDGET FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES.

OK. AND THE MOWER REQUEST FROM MR. ROTZOLL. THE BOARD DID NOT AGREE TO THAT BY CONSENSUS, EVEN IF TOURISM FUNDS WERE USED, WHICH WAS MR. STOKES RECOMMENDATION THAT REMAINS AND FIELD SEVEN NETTING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? COMMENTS? NO MA'AM. COMMENT? AND THEN THE THE BOARD ALL AGREED THAT IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE PURCHASE OF COUNTY AND PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES AND SCHOOL BUSSES AND OUR BUDGET, WE SHOULD DO SO.

SO I AM GOING TO ADD THOSE ITEMS IN AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WITHOUT FINANCING? CORRECT. WE WOULD PURCHASE THOSE AND NOT BORROW AND NOT BORROW, RIGHT? PAY AS YOU GO.

PAY, AS YOU GO. SO WITH THE THE DECISION POINTS THAT THE BOARD HAS AGREED TO THIS EVENING, THE REMAINING FIVE FOURTEEN ONE EIGHTEEN WOULD GO INTO CONTINGENCY TO BRING THE RESOURCES TO OR THEY EXPENDITURES TO THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE WRAP UP? AND AGAIN, JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, THIS JUST GIVES US A STARTING POINT.

CORRECT. THIS IS OUR STARTING POINT FOR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR US TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO OF MEETINGS TO GET TO A FINAL BUDGET THAT WOULD THEN COME TO A PUBLIC HEARING. YES, SIR.

YES. WELL, BASED ON THIS, WHAT WOULD THE FINAL SCHOOL NUMBERS BE? JUST THE SINCE WE HAVE SCHOOL PEOPLE IN THERE.

BASED ON THE DECISIONS THIS EVENING, THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION OF

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THE TRANSFER WOULD BE EIGHTEEN MILLION FIVE NINETY FOUR NINE TWELVE.

THE CURRENT YEAR TRANSFER IS JUST OVER SEVENTEEN MILLION.

SO THAT WOULD LEAD THEM ABOUT THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND OR SO LESS THAN WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS. AND WE PICK UP SCHOOL BUSSES.

AND WE'RE PICKING UP THE SCHOOL BUSSES TO PAY RIGHT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND WITHOUT BORROWING. WE WOULD MAKE A TRANSFER TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND DIRECTLY PURCHASE [COUGHING].

I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING BUDGET WISE.

I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE US COME DOWN EVEN LOWER.

I MEAN, WE HAVE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR YEARS AND IT'S THE NUMBERS DID NOT COME DOWN.

WE HAVE TO START COMING DOWN AT SOME POINT AND SEE WHAT THAT EFFECT IS AND THEN THAT GIVES US ROOM THE NEXT YEAR IF WE WANT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT YOU JUST CAN'T GO FROM A HIGH NUMBER TO A LOW NUMBER.

OR WE COULD DO IT.

BUT THEN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL TURN AROUND AND BE.

SO IT'LL BE THAT YO-YO EFFECT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF DOING BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL COMMENT.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO STAY, AND I THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND ASSEMBLING THIS BUDGET. IT'S BEEN QUITE DIFFICULT AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THEY'VE DONE.

THANK YOU MS. WAYMACK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT AND I WOULD SAY THANK YOU AS WELL.

PEOPLE AREN'T INVOLVED IN THIS.

DAY TO DAY DON'T REALIZE THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS, EMAILS BACK AND FORTH, DISCUSSING NUMBERS, LOOKING AT THINGS YOU AND MR. STOKE AND ADMINISTRATION, GIVING US A RECOMMENDATION ON A STARTING POINT.

AND THEN WE EITHER TAKING THOSE NUMBERS IN AGREEING OR CHANGING THEM.

BUT IT'S BEEN GRUELING SINCE JANUARY JUST TO GET TO THIS POINT.

SO BUT I DO THINK WANT TO THANK YOU AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.

I HONESTLY HAVE TO SAY LAST YEAR WE DID BUDGET PREPARATION DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER YEARS I WAS ON THE BOARD AND IT IMPROVED.

I WILL HONESTLY TELL YOU, I THINK THIS YEAR WAS BETTER THAN LAST YEAR AS FAR AS OUR PREPAREDNESS AND PREPARATION AND AVAILABILITY OF INFORMATION.

BUT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THERE'S STILL SOME NUMBERS WE DON'T KNOW YET.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW INSURANCE NUMBERS, HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND OTHER THINGS.

SO JUST FOR US TO HAVE THIS AS A START RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE START GETTING THESE OTHER NUMBERS IN. THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR US.

SO YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. ANY MORE COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE.

SO YOU WILL SEND US THE CHANGES.

YES, SIR. AND THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO LOBBY FOR, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, WE STILL HAVE THAT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY THERE.

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WE DO HAVE A WORK SESSION SCHEDULED OR IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR THE 16TH PRIOR TO THE PRESENTATION ON THE 22ND.

IS THERE A NEED TO HAVE THAT WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK OR? I DON'T THINK.

OK, OK.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE.

I MEAN, I'LL FIGHT FOR THE THINGS I WANT TO FIGHT FOR, BUT I DON'T NEED TO DO IT ON THE 16TH. OK, I CAN DO IT.

YEAH. SO THE PLAN RIGHT NOW WOULD BE ON MARCH 22ND, MR. STOKE WOULD PRESENT A PROPOSED BUDGET.

YES, SIR. WE WILL WRITE BASED ON THE EIGHTY-THREE AND THE THREE NINETY-FIVE.

YES, SIR. AND IF THAT'S WHAT WE ADVERTISE AT BUT AGAIN, AS WE WORK THROUGH IT, WE CAN TWEAK THOSE NUMBERS. WE JUST CAN'T GO UP? CORRECT. GOT YOU.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS WORK SESSION? NO, MADAM CHAIR, I DECLARE A RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THE BOARD HAS BEEN IN RECESS FOLLOWING THE WORK SESSION.

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THANK YOU. JOIN ME IN PRAYER, PLEASE.

FATHER OUR WONDERFUL GOD WHO HAS BEEN SO GRACIOUS AND KIND, AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE MANIFOLD EXPRESSIONS OF YOUR LOVE TO US.

WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE MADE A WAY THAT WE CAN APPROACH YOUR THRONE OF GRACE AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE TOUCHED WITH EVERY NEED THAT WE HAVE.

AND FATHER, WE TRUST YOU FOR WISDOM.

WE TRUST YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING.

WE TRUST YOU THAT THESE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD WILL KNOW WILL HAVE THE WISDOM TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO GOVERN ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.

WE PRAY YOUR RICHEST BLESSINGS UPON THEM INDIVIDUALLY, PERSONALLY, THEIR FAMILIES.

WE PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THEM AS THEY WORK TOGETHER AS A BOARD.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND WE JUST ASK YOU, FATHER, THAT AS THEY ENTER INTO THE BUSINESS OF THIS SESSION THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM UNDERSTANDING, YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM, YOU WILL GIVE THEM YOUR GRACE AND YOUR TRUTH.

AND WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR LOVE.

AMEN. AMEN.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.

YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOU MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD, COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

DID ANYONE SIGN WITH YOU MRS. KNOTT? YES, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP.

THE FIRST PERSON IS ROBIN [INAUDIBLE].

HELLO. HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBIN [INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE AT SEVEN FIVE TWO EIGHT ROLLING HILL ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

MS. WAYMACK, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE, AND MR. WHITTEN I'VE WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL DIVISION FOR 20 YEARS.

I HAVE A CHILD WHO GRADUATED FROM PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL AND MY OTHER CHILD CURRENTLY ATTENDS [INAUDIBLE].

AS A PARENT, EMPLOYEE AND CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT COUNTY, I WANTED TO COME TO YOU TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ON THE NATIONWIDE TEACHER SHORTAGE AND THE IMPACTS THAT HAVE HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STUDENTS.

I'VE BEEN A TEACHER AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, A PRINCIPAL, AND NOW I'M CURRENTLY THE DIRECTOR OF ELEMENTARY EDUCATION.

I HAVE NEVER STARTED THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH SO MANY TEACHER VACANCIES.

IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

WE HAD FOURTEEN UNFILLED TEACHING POSITIONS AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

TEN OF THESE POSITIONS WERE GENERAL CLASSROOM POSITIONS, THREE WERE SPECIAL EDUCATION POSITIONS AND ONE WAS A MUSIC TEACHER.

DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE FILLED THOSE POSITIONS WITH EIGHT LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES FOR EMPTY CLASSROOMS. WE HAD THREE LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES AND SPECIAL EDUCATION CLASSROOMS, AND THE MUSIC TEACHER POSITION ALSO HAD A LONG TERM.

WE WERE ABLE TO COLLAPSE SOME OF THE CLASSROOMS AND DIVIDE THOSE STUDENTS INTO OTHER CLASSROOMS TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT IN SOME OF OUR OTHER ROOMS. MANY OF THESE CLASSROOMS ALSO HAD MULTIPLE SUBSTITUTES THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF OUR FIFTH GRADE CLASSROOMS HAD THREE DIFFERENT SUBSTITUTES.

WE THEN HAD TO COLLAPSE THE CLASS AND DIVIDE THOSE STUDENTS INTO THE OTHER FIFTH GRADE CLASSROOMS. TAKING THAT ENROLLMENT FROM TWENTY STUDENTS TO TWENTY FIVE STUDENTS, WE ALSO HAD TO CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO PAY THE LONG TERM SUBSTITUTE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD OF QUALITY REQUIREMENTS.

A SECOND GRADE AND A KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOM THIS SCHOOL YEAR HAD THREE LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES.

TO SUPPORT OUR LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES,, OUR MATH, INTERVENTIONIST, READING, INTERVENTIONIST AND TITLE ONE TEACHERS PROVIDED DAILY INSTRUCTION TO THE STUDENTS IN THOSE CLASSROOMS. THEY EVEN CREATED LESSON PLANS FOR THE SUBSTITUTES.

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WHEN COVID ENTERED OUR WORLD, OUR TEACHERS AND PRINCE GEORGE ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE.

OUR SCHOOLS REMAIN OPEN TO FAMILIES WHEN MANY FAMILIES DID NOT HAVE THIS OPTION LITERALLY OVERNIGHT. OUR TEACHERS LEARNED TO TEACH VIRTUALLY.

MANY BEGIN TO TEACH BOTH IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL STUDENTS AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS WAS NOT AN EASY TASK FOR OUR STAFF.

AS AN EDUCATOR AND A PARENT, I FEEL THAT WE OWE OUR STUDENTS THE EXPERIENCE OF HAVING LICENSED TEACHERS, PROVIDING AN EXCELLENT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO OUR STUDENTS.

AND AS A MOTHER, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF OUR WONDERFUL COUNTY.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, AND WE ARE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SHOWN US TONIGHT.

WE VALUE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS THROUGH YEARS AND THE VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN FACED WITH IN EDUCATION.

OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR GREATEST RESOURCE AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP PREPARE THEM FOR THE FUTURE.

I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING IF YOU ARE ABLE TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SO THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE PROPERLY LICENSED AND ENDORSED TEACHERS.

THIS WILL ALLOW OUR COUNTY TO BE COMPETITIVE IN RECRUITING AND MAINTAINING OUR HIGHLY QUALIFIED EDUCATORS.

THE CHILDREN OF PRINCE GEORGE COME FROM GENERATIONS OF PRINCE GEORGE CITIZENS AND OFTEN RETURNED TO US AS ADULTS TO RAISE THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND BECOME OUR NEIGHBORS.

THEY DESERVE THE BEST POSSIBLE EDUCATION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

NEXT, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] BLAND BARNWELL.

WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] BLAND.

BARNWELL AND I LIVE AT 4302 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD SOUTH PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA.

I'M A PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

I HAVE A SON WHO IS CURRENTLY A JUNIOR AT PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL AS A PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS EMPLOYEE FOR 17 YEARS AND A PARENT.

I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HIRES AND RETAINS QUALIFIED EDUCATORS. ACCORDING TO THE DATA FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE NUMBER OF UNFILLED TEACHING TEACHING POSITIONS ACROSS VIRGINIA HAS SPIKED BY NEARLY 62 PERCENT.

THE TEACHER SHORTAGE PREDATED THE PANDEMIC, BUT SEVERELY EXACERBATED BY COVID 19 WITH FREQUENT VACANCIES.

SCHOOL LEADERS, ESPECIALLY PRINCIPALS, ARE SPENDING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME IDENTIFYING QUALIFIED APPLICANTS.

MANY TEACHERS HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON TO COVER CLASSES OR TAKE ON ADDITIONAL STUDENTS BECAUSE OF THE MANY UNFILLED POSITIONS HIGHLIGHTED BY [INAUDIBLE] TONIGHT.

SO MANY OF OUR TEACHERS HAVE LOST VALUABLE PLANNING TIME NEEDED TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THE ENGAGING LESSONS OUR STUDENTS DESERVE EACH AND EVERY DAY.

TEACHER SHORTAGES HAVE BECOME A NATIONAL ISSUE AS GROWING AS A GROWING NUMBER OF LOCAL SCHOOL DIVISIONS PREDICT AN IMPENDING STAFFING CRISIS.

WHILE SOME SURVEYS INDICATE MORE THAN HALF OF OUR TEACHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE CONSIDERING EXITING THE PROFESSION, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVERSE THAT TREND. THIS CAN BE DONE BY DEMONSTRATING A WILLINGNESS TO INVEST IN THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF WELL-PAID, QUALIFIED TEACHERS.

OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT'S MISSION IS TO ENGAGE, ENCOURAGE AND INSPIRE EVERY CHILD EVERY DAY.

WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT MISSION BY OFFERING COMPENSATION PACKAGES THAT ARE MORE COMPETITIVE AND SUPPORT THE EVER CHANGING COST OF LIVING.

WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALREADY DO FOR US AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION AND MORE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IF POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT.

CHRISTOPHER [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MICHAEL [INAUDIBLE] AND I LIVE AT ONE NINE FIVE ONE NINE [INAUDIBLE] COURT IN CARSON, VIRGINIA.

I'M A PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AS WELL AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY.

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MOORE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

WE HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS CURRENTLY A FOURTH GRADE STUDENT AT SOUTH ELEMENTARY.

DURING MY 17 YEARS AS AN EMPLOYEE OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, I'VE BEEN A TEACHER, AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND NOW PRINCIPAL AT HARRISON.

AS A RESIDENT EMPLOYEE AND PARENT, I HAVE VESTED AND HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND MRS. BARNWELL HAVE SHARED SOME VERY IMPORTANT STATISTICS WITH YOU REGARDING THE TEACHER SHORTAGE THAT WE ARE FACING IN OUR SCHOOLS.

HARRISON BEGAN THIS SCHOOL YEAR WITH TWO LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES.

WE'VE YET TO HIRE A LICENSED TEACHER DESPITE MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS FOR ONE POSITION, AND THE SECOND IS BEING FILLED THROUGH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACT AGENCY.

HAVING NON-LICENSED TEACHERS OR TEACHERS EMPLOYED BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES PLACED A STRAIN ON THEIR GRADE LEVELS AND THE DEPARTMENTS AND OUR SCHOOLS, OUR SUPPORT STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION, AS MRS. BARNWELL STATED.

MANY OF OUR TEACHERS USE THEIR PLANNING TIMES.

THEY ARRIVE EARLY.

THEY STAY LATE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THOSE SUBSTITUTES AND ENSURE THAT INSTRUCTION IS MEANINGFUL AND TARGETED TO OUR STUDENTS NEEDS.

TODAY'S TEACHERS PLAN BEYOND READING, MATH, SCIENCE, AND HISTORY.

THEY MUST PLAY IN OPPORTUNITIES TO TEACH SOCIAL SKILLS FOR STUDENTS TO COLLABORATE AND COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY.

TEACHERS ARE COUNSELORS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS, TAKING TIME TO LISTEN TO STUDENTS, PROVIDE COMPASSION, ENCOURAGEMENT AND SUPPORT WHERE NEEDED.

TEACHERS ARE BEHAVIORAL INTERVENTIONISTS, HELPING STUDENTS MANAGE THEIR EMOTIONS AND EXPRESS THEIR FEELINGS APPROPRIATELY.

ALL THIS WHILE TEACHING MATH, READING, SCIENCE AND HISTORY.

PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO EMPLOY HIGHLY QUALIFIED LICENSED TEACHER.

A [INAUDIBLE] WAY TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN THOSE EXCELLENT TEACHERS THAT OUR STUDENTS DESERVE IS TO OFFER A COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT EXCEEDS ALL OTHER OPTIONS IN THE AREA.

WITHOUT A COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION PACKAGE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE TO FILL THE OPENINGS AND LOSE TEACHERS TO OTHER DISTRICTS, OFFERING BETTER COMPENSATION TO FULFILL OUR MISSION TO ENGAGE, ENCOURAGE AND INSPIRE EVERY CHILD EVERY DAY.

WE MUST FILL EACH POSITION WITH THE BEST OF THE BEST.

WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR US, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TONIGHT IN REPRESENTING OUR SCHOOLS, AND WE JUST ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR KIDDOS. AND WE SAY THAT EVERY DAY DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS.

THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER? YES, MA'AM, WILLIAM BARNES.

NEVER HEARD OF HIM.

DENIED, DENIED.

[INAUDIBLE] PUT IT ON ONE MINUTE THERE MS. DREWRY. I KNEW WHEN MR. CARMICHAEL SAW ME, HE WAS GOING TO THINK I WAS BEGGING FOR MONEY AGAIN.

BUT I'M NOT. I'M NOT.

GOOD EVENING, MS. WAYMACK, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR., STOKE AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM BARNES AND I LIVE AT NINETY SEVEN THIRTEEN HOLLYWOOD DRIVE, WHERE I HAVE RESIDED FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

OVER THE YEARS, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE SUPERVISORS MANY TIMES.

MS. DREWRY CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS, FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN, AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT.

I'VE WORKED WITH OUR SCHOOLS FOR FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AS A TEACHER, A COACH, A COUNSELOR AND AN ADMINISTRATOR. I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE.

I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.

AND I AM PROUD OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.

I AM PROUD THAT WE HAVE ALUMNI SUCH AS JACKIE BRADLEY, REGGIE WILLIAMS, [INAUDIBLE], DAVE [INAUDIBLE], JOHNNY OTIS, WAYNE COLLINS AND MANY OTHERS.

I'M PROUD OF THE ATTORNEYS, THE DOCTORS, THE PROFESSORS, THE TEACHERS AND OTHER LEADERS SUCH AS OURSELVES, YOURSELVES THAT HAVE WALKED THE HALLS OF PRINCE GEORGE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE.

BUT THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN BOTH CHALLENGING AND REWARDING.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED SINCE I ENTERED THE OLD PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL AS A TEACHER IN AUGUST OF 1974.

I WAS WITH A GROUP OF TEACHERS THAT FELT WE HAD REACHED THE TOP.

I GOT A $3000 RAISE THAT YEAR TO COME TO PRINCE GEORGE, AND I STILL DIDN'T MAKE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

FOR YEARS, WE RECRUITED THE REGION'S BEST AND BRIGHTEST, AND WE CONTINUED THE GREAT TRADITIONS THAT YOU HAVE COME TO EXPECT OF OUR SCHOOLS, THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE

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BUT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS FOR OUR FUTURE, A FUTURE THAT I WORRY ABOUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

CHILDREN ARE NOT CHOOSING TO GO INTO THE TEACHING PROFESSION.

TEACHING IS NOT AN EASY JOB.

IT IS HARD.

IT IS LONG HOURS.

IT'S NIGHTS WEEKENDS WORKING ON LESSON PLANS, GRADING PAPERS, PREPARING FOR THE NEXT TOPICS. TALKING WITH PARENTS.

TALKING WITH STUDENTS.

KEEPING UP WITH BEST PRACTICES.

AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY, SPENDING A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SPOUSE, YOUR CHILDREN, ASK MR. WEBB, ASK MR. BROWN. HE HAS A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S A TEACHER AS MR. HUNTER. HIS WIFE WAS A TEACHER.

WE USED TO SAY THE TEACHERS HAVE THE SUMMERS TO RECUPERATE.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

TEACHERS SPEND THEIR SUMMERS IN CLASS, EITHER RENEWING THEIR LICENSES OR TRYING TO EARN A LITTLE MORE MONEY. CHILDREN WILL TELL ME TO MY FACE.

I CAN MAKE MORE MONEY, MR. BARNES WORKING AT TARGET THAN I CAN TEACH IN SCHOOL.

AND WHEN I LEAVE TARGET AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, I'VE GOT ALL THIS OTHER PAPERWORK TAKE HOME WITH ME AND WORRY ABOUT.

AND THEY'RE TELLING THE TRUTH.

THERE'S LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL SHORTAGE OF TEACHERS.

ONE OF MY COWORKERS IN A NEIGHBORING, MUCH LARGER DIVISION SHARED THAT AT THEIR FIRST JOB FAIR THREE YEARS AGO, THEY HAD 285 CANDIDATES SHOW UP.

LAST YEAR, THEY HAD ABOUT 175 SHOW UP.

AND THIS YEAR, THEIR FIRST RECRUITING JOB FAIR, THEY HAD 85 PEOPLE SHOW UP.

THIS SCHOOL YEAR, WITH YOUR HELP, WE WERE ABLE TO BE RANKED NUMBER SEVEN OUT OF FIFTEEN IN OUR REGION AND STARTING SALARY.

BUT WE WERE BEHIND HOPEWELL PETERSBURG AND RICO RICHMOND, SURRY AND POWHATTAN.

WE FILLED APPROXIMATELY EIGHTY TEACHING POSITIONS THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE TWENTY-THREE PROVISIONALLY LICENSED TEACHERS AND TWELVE SEEKING THEIR PROVISIONAL LICENSES. I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIFTEEN INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS COVERING MATH BIOLOGY, ENGLISH, SPANISH [INAUDIBLE] AND CTE.

I'M SHORT THIRTY-ONE TEACHING POSITIONS, TEN SPECIAL ED AND TWENTY-ONE GENERAL ED.

TO COVER THOSE. I HAVE TWENTY-ONE LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES AND THIRTEEN FULL AND PART TIME CONTRACTORS. I SEE IT.

I SEE IT. SOME TEACHERS ARE TEACHING AN ADDITIONAL PERIOD FOR PAY.

SOME CLASSES HAD TO BE COMBINED.

WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH AGENCIES FOR VIRTUAL TEACHERS, WHICH STILL REQUIRES US TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THE STUDENTS WHILE THEY LEARN FROM A TEACHER VIRTUALLY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE HAD TO REDUCE SOME COURSE OFFERINGS.

THESE ARE THE FACTS THIS YEAR.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL BE NEXT YEAR.

WE KNOW THAT YOU WILL DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO SUPPORT US, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE TRULY NEED THE ADDITIONAL REQUESTED FUNDS FOR OUR TEACHING STAFF BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY WOULD GO.

AND WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NO GOOD FOR YOU TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND TAKE IT BACK FOR THE ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN INSURANCE RATES.

THAT IS WHY WE NEED THE FULL AMOUNT OF 988 THOUSAND AND FOR THE THREE PERCENT SALARY INCREASE AND THE 863 FOR THE INSURANCE BENEFITS.

WE KNOW THAT WE ALL WANT PRINCE GEORGE TO BE THE BEST.

WE HOLD ALL, HOLD OUR HEADS HIGH AND WE ARE PROUD OF OUR STUDENTS, OUR ATHLETES AND OUR COUNTY. AND WE KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR SUPPORT.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO COST US AND WE'RE WILLING TO PAY OUR SHARE FOR US TO BE THE BEST, TO HAVE THE BEST AND TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN.

WE KNOW THERE IS NO BETTER INVESTMENT THAN THE ONES WE MAKE IN OUR CHILDREN, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ON BEHALF OF ALL OUR CHILDREN, WE SAY, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

LADIES.

THANK YOU. IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE? NO, MA'AM. IS ANYONE ELSE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU MAY NOT SPEAK TO ANY ISSUE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LARRY MITCHELL.

I LIVE AT ONE SIX TWO ZERO ZERO [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISORS, BOARD MEMBERS.

I DID HAVE A WRITTEN DOWN WHAT I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON TONIGHT, BUT LISTENING TO THE BUDGET JUST A WHILE AGO, I MIGHT MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

THE 2023 COUNTY BUDGET IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE TO ADDRESS REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

WE, AS FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS, ALSO MUST UNDERGO EXAMINATION OF FAMILY BUDGETS.

TODAY, AN ENEMY TO BOTH FAMILY AND COUNTY BUDGETS ARE UNDER ATTACK BY AN UNSTABLE FORCE,

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THE ENEMY IS IDENTIFIED AS INFLATION.

INFLATION A TAX CURRENT AND PLANNED BUDGETS FOR 2023 CURRENT BUDGETS MUST BE ADJUSTED TO THE TRENDS AND INFLATION.

WARFARE BUDGETS WILL CHANGE THE EXPENDITURE NUMBERS TO HIGHER LEVELS.

THE BOARD HEARS FROM EACH DEPARTMENT IN RELATION TO STAFFING, SALARIES AND EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS. THESE THREE AREAS ARE SENSITIVE TO THE OPERATION EFFECTIVENESS OF MISSIONS.

STAFFING REQUESTS MUST BE EVALUATED TO THE POPULATION DENSITY AND CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS.

WHAT ARE THE GOALS FOR INCREASED LEVELS? NOW WE'LL PASS A LOT.

PROGRESS, AS WE HEAR MAY NOT BE THE PROGRESS OF MANY.

HOW IT SAID.

WHAT IS IT BASED ON AND INSIGHT TO DEVELOPMENT? THE STRATEGIC PLAN SETS THE COURSE OF GOALS.

I, FOR ONE, LIKE THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA AND ITS BENEFITS, I LIKE TO SEE SUPERVISORS ASKED MORE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE BUDGET.

I LIKE TO SEE SUPER LET ME SKIP WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

LET'S HAVE A MORATORIUM ON INCREASES.

WE MUST HAVE A RECOVERY PERIOD AFTER TWO YEARS OF ECONOMIC PANDEMIC.

LET'S FIX OR REPAIR CURRENT PROBLEMS FOR 2023.

I, FOR ONE, LISTENING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THESE ARE MY CORE AREAS OF BUDGETING AND I HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT THOSE AREAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK? FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.

RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTIONS SECTION NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HANDS.

HAVE TWO MADAM CHAIR.

YEAH.

MS. [INAUDIBLE].

MS. [INAUDIBLE], YOU MAY SPEAK NOW.

I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SWITCH.

HOLD ONE MOMENT WE NEED TO SWITCH.

OK. I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY OPINION.

FIRST OF ALL, I FULLY EMBRACE THE CONCERNS OF THE SPEAKERS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND FROM THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, THE TEACHERS, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT.

I'M A COUNTY RESIDENT.

WE MOVED INTO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAD YOUNG CHILDREN AND THEY WERE AND WE MOVED IN FROM FORT LEE.

I THINK THAT WE WILL BEST SERVE OUR PUBLIC.

NOT JUST OUR COMMUNITY, BUT INVITING OTHER PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

IF WE PAY ATTENTION TO TAKING CARE OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR LIBRARIES, OUR DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE ABOUT TO BE IN A COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] WE MOVED HERE.

I THINK PEOPLE WILL STILL MOVE HERE AND AUGMENT AND INCREASE AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY BEING BETTER IF WE DO THAT.

SO I DON'T I DID NOT EXAMINE EVERY POINT OF THE BUDGET.

BUT IF THE BUDGET IS ABOUT SUPPORTING INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHY I DECIDED TO SPEAK UP TONIGHT.

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COULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. I LIVE AT THREE FIVE ZERO SIX ONTARIO DRIVE IN PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA.

AND I HAVE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY AROUND ME THAT I TRY TO SUPPORT AS BEST I CAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MRS. [INAUDIBLE].

IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER TO COME FORWARD? YES, MA'AM. ONE OTHER SPEAKER WITH THE ELECTRONIC HANDOUT, MR. STEELE. OK.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MR. STEELE, YOU'RE UNMUTED. WE'RE CURRENTLY UNABLE TO HEAR YOU, MR. STEELE, OR HE'S MUTE AGAIN.

OK. YOU'RE UNMUTED.

VERY GOOD? BEFORE YOU START MS. DREWRY, WHEN WE SPEAK, THERE IS A LINE ACROSS THE LIGHT.

THE SPEAKER LIGHT AND WE CAN'T SEE THAT ON THE COMPUTER, SO JUST TAP OR SOMETHING.

I SHOULD BE UNDER MY TIME.

SO IF YOU'LL START MY TIME NOW, MADAM CHAIRMAN, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS WILLIAM STEELE.

NINE NINE TWO ONE COUNTY LINE ROAD AND [INAUDIBLE].

MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY FELLOW TAXPAYERS, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

FIRST, LET ME EXPRESS MY DEEP GRATITUDE AND GIVE VERY MUCH THANKS TO OUR INTERIM COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND HIS FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I HAVE ASKED THAT MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COUNTY SPENDING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND NOT ONLY HAVE I GOTTEN THE INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED, BUT I'VE GOTTEN IT IN A MOST TIMELY FASHION, SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL AND THANK THEM FOR THAT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, AS WE ALL KNOW, YOUR BOARD IS WORKING ON FY 23 BUDGET.

WE HAVE TRUST THAT AS MR. BROWN HAS MADE CLEAR SEVERAL TIMES THIS EVENING DURING THE WORKSHOP, YOUR MINDS ARE NOT MADE UP DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU ALLOW ONLY THE STAFF TO PRESENT ARGUMENTS TO YOU FOR THEIR NEED OF INCREASING STAFF SALARIES AND THEIR THIRST FOR MORE AND MORE SPENDING.

BUT BECAUSE THAT THIS IS THE TIME I, AS A TAXPAYER WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.

NOW I AM SURE YOU RECALL AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP, TWO MEMBERS ASKED EXPLAIN WHAT ARE THE MUST USE AND AND HOW DID YOU AND YOU DID NOT GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

INSTEAD, WHAT WE DID GET WAS HEARING FROM THE STAFF THAT EVERYTHING ON THE RECOMMENDED LINES OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, THE MASSIVE INCREASE IN SPENDING IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET WAS CONSIDERED A MUST DO.

I LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE ONLY MUST DO LINE ITEMS ON ANY KIND OF SPENDING PLAN IS THOSE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW.

THAT IS A MUST DO.

EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE PROPOSED TWENTY THREE BUDGET IS A LIKE TO HAVE.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF LIKES TO HAVE, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY AND START CUTTING SPENDING WHILE THERE ARE SO-CALLED MUST DOS.

LET ME REPLY TO FACTS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.

AS YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY IS THE FOURTH HIGHEST TAX COUNTY AMONG THE 20 COUNTIES THAT'S AROUND US.

SOON TO BE THE THIRD HIGHEST IF HENRICO COUNTY DOES INCREASE DECREASE THEIR TAX RATE AS THEY PLAN TO DO YOU ALREADY KNOW THEY'RE GIVING MONEY BACK TO THEIR TAXPAYERS FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, ACCORDING TO AN INTERNET SITE.

GOVT SALARIES AND BELIEVE ME, I DON'T TAKE STOCK IN WHAT I READ ON THE INTERNET, BUT THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE SOURCED AND SEEING TO GIVE ME PAUSE, IN OUR REGION, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, PAYS OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE ARE RANKED THE SECOND HIGHEST AVERAGE SALARY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE SECOND HIGHEST MEDIAN SALARY OF THE COUNTIES THAT ARE SHOWN IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA.

NOW, LAST YEAR, THE TAXPAYERS ALREADY GAVE ALREADY PAID FOR A PAY RAISE, BUT NOW OUR STAFF WANTS MORE.

DID ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM GET A PAY RAISE LAST YEAR? I KNOW I DIDN'T, AND I KNOW A LOT OF CITIZENS ON FIXED INCOME DID NOT.

AND IN FACT, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS.

BUT YOU HAD ASKED TAXPAYERS FOOT THE BILL FOR THEIR INCREASES LAST YEAR.

I CONFIRMED THE DATA POINT TODAY THAT MR. BARNES, TO HIS TEACHER PAY.

TEACHERS AND PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, ARE RANKED 7TH AND PAY OUT OF THE 15 SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT LOOKED AT IN THIS DATA POINT.

MR. SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER CONFIRMED MY RESEARCH JUST RECENTLY REGARDING THE PARKS AND REC, BUT I LEARNED THIS MORNING, TO MY SURPRISE, IS THAT OUT OF EVERY EIGHT AND NINETY SEVEN CENTS THAT YOU SPEND ON TAX ON PARKS AND REC, WE RECOVER ONLY ONE DOLLAR.

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ANYONE, UNDERSTANDS THAT WHO WORKS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

WE DON'T WORK IN IT TO BECOME RICH.

WE WORK IN IT TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC.

TWO, GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY SOMEWHERE THAT WILL PAY BETTER THAN WE PAY, NO MATTER WHAT.

HOW MUCH MONEY YOU THROW AT THE PROBLEM.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, FEDS MAKE BETTER THAN THE STATES.

STATES BETTER THAN COUNTY.

COUNTY MAKES BETTER THAN LOW, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

MY OPINION IS IF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE SEES A BETTER OPPORTUNITY ELSEWHERE, GO BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL SEE PG AS BETTER THAN WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

DIDN'T WE JUST RECENTLY SEE OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DEPARTMENT BRING UP SOMEBODY FROM SURREY? OR WAS IT SUSSEX COUNTY BECAUSE THEY SAW BETTER IN PG, BECAUSE PG IS BETTER, BUT WE GOT TO STOP. AND NOW THIS YEAR, THE TAXPAYER.

OUR BOARD IS ASKING THE TAXPAYERS TO GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES A FIVE PERCENT PAY RAISE.

WHERE WILL IT ACT? IT'LL NEVER END BECAUSE OF THE CRAZY TIMES WE LIVE IN.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE TIME AND START LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GIVING.

I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU.

WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.

YOUR TIME IS UP.

ALL RIGHT, I CAN'T SEE IT.

AND I WAS ALMOST DONE. MADAM CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? THERE'S NO ONE ELSE ON ZOOM, MADAM CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. ONE, JUST RAISED.

YOU NEED TO HIT STAR NINE TO UNMUTE.

TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

OK. HELLO.

HELLO. AND I'M MARY JO TYSON, FIFTEEN THREE, ZERO SEVEN [INAUDIBLE] VIRGINIA . I'M ALL FOR THE SCHOOLS.

I'VE HAD LOTS OF CHILDREN, SO I'M NOT DOWNING ANYONE IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, SO I DON'T WANT MY COMMENT TO BE MISCONSTRUED.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE SCHOOLS.

EVERYBODY JUST STOOD UP AND TOLD YOU THAT WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED.

LAST YEAR IT WAS OVER ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY PEOPLE THAT LEFT.

IT WASN'T JUST COVID.

THERE'S ISSUES THERE.

READ ARTICLES, PROGRESS INDEX.

THERE'S LAWSUITS, GO ON TO SCHOOL PAGES, READ THERE'S TEACHERS BEING ASSAULTED, CHILDREN ARE BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED.

THERE'S PROBLEMS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

TEACHERS LEFT AND RETIRED EARLY AND MOVED TO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BECAUSE THERE'S PROBLEMS, SO THROWING MONEY AT THE SCHOOLS IS NOT GOING TO FIX IT.

ALSO JUMPING OFF HERE, I THINK IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR DONALD HUNTER TO VOTE FOR A RAISE WHEN HE'S A PAID COUNTY EMPLOYEE, SO WHEN HE RAISES HIS HANDS TO VOTE FOR A RAISE, HE'S VOTING FOR HIMSELF TO GET A RAISE.

HE SHOULDN'T HAVE A VOTE.

UM, LET ME SEE.

I WAS TYPING AS WE WERE GOING.

FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAD MORE PEOPLE MOVING TO THE COUNTY LAST YEAR WITH LESS CHILDREN. WELL, THAT'S THE COST OF THE SUMMER OF LOVE, THE SPRING OF LOVE, PEOPLE WANTING TO GET OUT OF THE CITY.

SO THINK OF THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING ALL OF THIS AS WELL.

AND YEARS AGO, WHEN I STARTED FIGHTING YOU GUYS OVER THE SOLAR PANEL, I LOOKED AT THE COUNTY SALARIES TO JULIE WALTON, JUST TAKE ONE EXAMPLE AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, A PERSON AT THE TIME WERE EQUAL TO WHAT PEOPLE IN BIG METROPOLITAN AREAS WERE GETTING PAID.

THIS IS RULE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

HEY, MA'AM. PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF OTHERS.

WE ASKED FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THAT'S NOT ILL.

LET'S NOT TWIST THE STORY GUYS.

I'M STATING A FACT.

I PULLED IT UP. I HAD SCREENSHOTS OF WHAT THE SALARIES WERE OF THE TWO INDIVIDUALS I SPOKE OF. I DIDN'T SPEAK ILL.

I'M STATING A FACT. DON'T TWIST THE STORY HERE.

THEY WERE GETTING PAID PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK.

A HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN PERCENT. WE'LL HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF MS. TYSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I FIGURED. AND MADAM CHAIR, JUST LET ME STATE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THIS IS NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE AND CUT ANYBODY OFF, OUR BYLAWS CLEARLY STATE THAT ANYONE SPEAKING BEFORE THIS BOARD WILL NOT CALL OUT PEOPLE BY NAME.

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PUTTING OUT INFORMATION.

WE ARE SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE BYLAWS THAT THIS BOARD VOTED ON TO START THE BEGINNING OF OUR YEAR. AND EITHER YOU WILL WORK WITHIN OUR BYLAWS OR MADAM CHAIR HAS THE RIGHT TO CUT YOU OFF. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, BECAUSE SHE GOT TWO MINUTES MORE THAN I WOULD HAVE GIVEN HER.

WE JUST COULDN'T GET OUR WORD IN.

THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S NOW TIME FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AT 7:30.

OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS REGARDING THE PROPOSED AUTHORIZATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED FIVE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND.

MS. DREWRY, MADAM CHAIR.

MAY I ASK FIRST, THOUGH, I KNOW IT'S TIME FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THAT WE ADOPT OUR AGENDA BECAUSE THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA DEFINES WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AND IN WHAT ERA.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WE DO THAT FIRST, RIGHT? I JUST DIDN'T WANT US TO GO OVER AND NOT GET ENOUGH TIME FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NO, YOU CAN GO INTO. WE HAVE A WE CAN ADOPT OUR AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE AN ADDITION TO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT UNDER OUR BUSINESS ITEM A2.

THAT ITEM WOULD BE AS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR THEIR POOR CREEK SANITARY SEWER AND WATER SERVICE.

THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN A GRANT AND THIS IS A THIS WOULD BE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THAT, AND WE HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD A2 HEARING NO DISCUSSION.

I ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS.

OK, ADDING A2.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

HE SECOND. I MADE THE MOTION MR. CARMICHAEL SECOND. YES, MA'AM.

MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. WEBB.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. BROWN.

NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC ONE.

MS. DREWRY.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

MRS. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

OK. THE INFORMATION IS BEHIND TAB NINE IN YOUR NOTEBOOKS, AND I DID WANT TO MAKE THE BOARD AWARE AND UPDATED LENDER COMPARISON FROM DAVENPORT WAS PLACED AT YOUR SEATS THIS EVENING. SO I WANTED TO CALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUANCE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WERE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED AS PART OF LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS.

THE BOARD HAS ALSO DISCUSSED USING A MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR FUND BALANCE RESERVES TO TO BRING THAT BORROWING LEVEL DOWN TO FOUR MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND, INSTEAD OF THE FULL AMOUNT OF FIVE POINT SEVEN SEVEN FIVE.

THE PROJECTS, AS WE'VE COVERED IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS, CONSIST OF A GENERATOR, A PURCHASE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL. SOME DEFIBRILLATORS PURCHASED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EXPANSION OF OUR FLEET GARAGE THREE MILLION SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND SCHOOL TECHNOLOGY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, SCHOOL BUSSES, POLICE AND COUNTY VEHICLES, AS WELL AS SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS PURCHASED FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SEGMENT.

AGAIN, THAT DEBT WILL BE FUNDED, THAT SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS USING YOUR DEVOTED ONE CENT OF REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE.

THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS DOES NOT CREATE THE NEED TO INCREASE YOUR TAX REVENUES, AND THOSE BOND REPAYMENTS WILL BEGIN NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND WILL BE INCLUDED IN YOUR INTRODUCED AND ADOPTED BUDGET FOR FY 23.

THE COUNTY, OF COURSE, IS REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR TO ISSUING GEO BONDS.

AND WE DID ADVERTISE NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND THE PROGRESS INDEX AND THE FEBRUARY 22ND AND MARCH 1ST EDITIONS.

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HE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT DUE TO A MEDICAL PROCEDURE TODAY.

DAVENPORT ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR TWO OPTIONS THE FULL FIVE POINT SEVENTY SEVEN, FIVE OR FOUR MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND, AND THEY SENT THAT OUT TO OVER ONE HUNDRED LENDING INSTITUTIONS.

THOSE PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON THE 22ND OF FEBRUARY AND WE RECEIVED TEN RESPONSES.

THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE NARROWED DOWN, WHICH MR. [INAUDIBLE] FROM DAVENPORT WILL COVER.

SO SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING NEXT IS THAT MR. [INAUDIBLE]. I APOLOGIZE.

COME FORWARD AND COVER THOSE PROPOSALS.

THEN THE BOARD WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

THE BOARD MEMBER WILL BOARD MEMBERS WILL PROVIDE INPUT ON THEIR DESIRED LEVEL OF PREPAYMENT FLEXIBILITY AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

THE BOARD WILL NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER TO ISSUE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT OR FOR A MILLION LESS.

OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS AND THEN THE BOARD WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER AND POSSIBLY APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT. SO AGAIN, WE WOULD ASK I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MITCH [INAUDIBLE] FROM DAVENPORT TO COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THE UPDATED PRESENTATION [INAUDIBLE] AT YOUR PLACES.

THANK YOU, MITCH. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING. MITCH [INAUDIBLE] WITH DAVENPORT AND COMPANY AND BETSY DO NOT FEEL BAD.

I GO BY MITCH FOR A REASON.

WE AT DAVENPORT, OBVIOUSLY FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

I MEAN, AS MS. DREWRY SAID, WE DISTRIBUTED THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO OVER ONE HUNDRED DIFFERENT LENDING INSTITUTIONS, TEN RESPONSES, WHICH WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH.

OF THOSE RESPONSES NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP TWO LOWEST INTEREST RATE PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED UNDER THE RESPONSES RECEIVED, WHICH WAS ON FEBRUARY 22ND.

THE LOWEST INTEREST RATES WERE PROVIDED BY JPMORGAN CHASE.

THOSE RATES WERE INDICATIVE INTEREST RATES.

THEY WERE NOT HELD FIRM THROUGH.

THE ANTICIPATED CLOSING DATE ON THOSE RATES CANNOT BE LOCKED IN UNLESS YOU ALL ACCEPT THEIR PROPOSAL, AND THE RATES THEY PROVIDE ARE ONLY GOOD FOR TWENTY FOUR HOURS.

SO WE DID RECEIVE THIS MORNING UPDATED INTEREST RATES FROM JPMORGAN CHASE, WHICH ARE HELD THROUGH TOMORROW.

SO IF YOU ALL AS A BOARD THIS EVENING DECIDE TO GO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, WE CAN LOCK IN THOSE INTEREST RATES AND THOSE INTEREST RATES ARE REFLECTED IN THE REVISED PRESENTATION YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.

GIVEN THAT THE JPMORGAN CHASE PROPOSAL WAS REFRESHED THIS MORNING, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE SECOND LOWEST BIDDER, ATLANTIC UNION BANK, AND OFFERED THEM AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THEIR PROPOSAL PROPOSED INTEREST RATES AS WELL, WHICH THEY IN FACT DID, AND WE RECEIVED AN UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM THEM THIS MORNING AS WELL.

AGAIN, THOSE INTEREST RATES ARE REFLECTED IN YOUR UPDATED MATERIALS HERE.

SO IF YOU ALL HAVE THE UPDATED PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE LOOK AT PAGE FOUR OF THE TWO LOGOS ON THOSE, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE FOR YOU.

SO BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER PAGE FOUR COLUMN B IS THE JPMORGAN CHASE PROPOSAL, THOSE UPDATED RATES THIS MORNING ACTUALLY, WE'VE BEEN TRACKING ALONG WITH THEM.

AND DESPITE ALL THE MOVEMENTS IN RATES, THEY ENDED UP COMING BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE IN THEIR INITIAL PROPOSAL.

SO THEY OFFERED TWO OPTIONS ONE POINT NINE PERCENT, WHICH WOULD BE A NON CALLABLE RATE NON-REPAYABLE RATE, MEANING THAT IF YOU ACCEPTED THAT ONE POINT NINE ZERO PERCENT RATE, YOU WOULD BE LOCKED INTO THAT FOR THE TERM OF THE FINANCING, WHICH IS A 15 YEAR FINANCING WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO PREPAY THAT LOAN.

THE SECOND OPTION THEY OFFERED WAS A ONE POINT NINE EIGHT, FOUR PERCENT INTEREST RATE, AND THAT INTEREST RATE WOULD BE REPAYABLE AFTER THE FIRST EIGHT YEARS, SO AFTER YEAR EIGHT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO REPAY THAT LOAN WITHOUT PENALTY.

COLUMN C IS THE ATLANTIC UNION BANK.

THEIR REVISED INTEREST RATE WAS A ONE POINT NINETY NINE FIVE PERCENT, SO JUST SLIGHTLY

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BUT THE ATLANTIC UNION BANK INTEREST RATE IS CALLABLE AT ANY TIME WITHOUT PENALTY, SO YOU HAVE MAXIMUM PREPAYMENT FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT ATLANTIC UNION BANK RATE.

SO LAST THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THIS EVENING.

PAGES FIVE AND SIX ARE A SUMMARY OF THE ESTIMATED TOTAL DEBT SERVICE COST OF EACH OF THESE FINANCING OPTIONS.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PAGE FIVE, THIS IS FOR THE FOUR POINT SEVENTY SEVEN FIVE DOLLARS MILLION BORROWINGS TO THE LOWER BORROWING AMOUNT, AND COLUMN D REPRESENTS THE TOTAL COST OF THE JPMORGAN CHASE WITHOUT A PREPAYMENT OPTION.

TOTAL COST IS FIVE POINT FOUR TWO TWO MILLION.

COLUMN G REPRESENTS THE TOTAL PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS OF THE JPMORGAN CHASE PROPOSAL THAT HAS THE EIGHT YEAR PREPAYMENT OPTION.

THAT'S A TOTAL COST OF FIVE POINT FORTY FIVE MILLION, AND COLUMN J IS THE ATLANTIC UNION PROPOSAL, WHICH HAS COMPLETE PREPAYMENT FLEXIBILITY AND THAT HAS A TOTAL COST OF FIVE POINT FOUR FIVE TWO MILLION, SO LOWEST TO HIGHEST TOTAL COST.

THE NON CALLABLE OPTION NON-REPAYABLE OPTION IS THE LOWEST TOTAL COST.

IF YOU GO TO THE EIGHT YEAR PREPAYMENT OPTION, THAT'S GOING TO COST YOU TWENTY NINE THOUSAND MORE OVER THE FULL 15 YEARS OF THE LOAN.

THEN THE NON CALLABLE OPTION AND THEN THE ATLANTIC UNION PRE PAYABLE AT ANY TIME OPTION IS GOING TO COST ABOUT THIRTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE THAN THE NON CALLABLE OPTION, OR ABOUT FOURTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE THAN THE EIGHT YEAR PREPAYMENT OPTION.

PAGE SIX IS THE EXACT SAME SETUP, BUT JUST THE SLIGHTLY HIGHER BORROWING AMOUNT, THE ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION WOULD BE BORROWED INSTEAD OF CASH FUNDED AND THE DIFFERENTIAL THERE FOR THE EIGHT YEAR CALL OPTION, IT WOULD COST YOU ABOUT THIRTY SIX THOUSAND MORE THAN THE NO CALL OPTION.

AND THE ATLANTIC UNION PROPOSAL WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS OVER THAT EIGHT YEAR PAR CALL OPTION.

SO I THREW A LOT OF NUMBERS OUT AT YOU IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THOSE.

IF YOU DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD THIS EVENING, OBVIOUSLY HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION, THAT WOULD BE THE

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ALL IS A BOARD TO APPROVE THE FINANCING.

AFTER THAT, STAFF OURSELVES BOND COUNCIL WILL WORK WITH THE PROPOSER YOU SELECT TO CLOSE THE FINANCING. THANK YOU, SIR.

I GOT A QUESTION. YES, SIR.

WITH THE NO CALL OPTION, WOULD I BE CORRECT IN STATING THAT THE NO CALL, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED EIGHT YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE WERE LOCKED IN, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REFINANCE IF WE CHOSE TO FOR A LOWER RATE OR TO ADD ADDITIONAL MONIES IF NEEDED.

YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.

UNDER THE LOAN DOCUMENTS, THERE WOULD BE NO PREPAYMENT OPTIONS.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO PREPAY THE LOAN EARLY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE BANK TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION. OR THAT WOULD BE A NEGOTIATION WITH THE BANK AT THAT TIME.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE STATED ABILITY TO PREPAY THAT ONE.

BUT THE OTHER OPTION WOULD?YES, SIR.

THAT'S RIGHT. UNDER THE UNDER THE EIGHT YEAR PREPAYMENT OPTION, AFTER EIGHT YEARS, YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO PREPAY IT.

AND UNDER THE ATLANTIC UNION OPTION AT ANY TIME, YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO PREPAY IT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS RIGHT.

OK.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO. SO AGAIN, IF YOU GO WITH THE FOUR POINT SEVENTY SEVEN FIVE DOLLARS MILLION BORROWING, AS MITCH HAS STATED, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOURTEEN HUNDRED MORE DOLLARS TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OR THIRTY THOUSAND MORE WITH NO CALL COMPARED TO JPMORGAN CHASE.

WE CAN SEE WHAT THE [INAUDIBLE].

I ALREADY KNOW WHERE I'M AT. YEAH.

OH, WAIT FOR PUBLIC INPUT FIRST.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, MA'AM. I NOW OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MS. DREWRY, WOULD YOU SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM, FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS? WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION TONIGHT OF TONIGHT'S MEETING FOR 4P-1 PUBLIC

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IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTION SECTION TO BE RECOGNIZED.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HANDS.

MADAM CHAIR, I DO NOT SEE ANY RAISED HANDS.

SINCE THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK ON HOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD. YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE.

MADAM CHAIR, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. MADAM CHAIR, I PERSONALLY WOULD BE LEANING TO THE FOUR SEVEN SEVEN FIVE OPTION.

I PERSONALLY WOULD BE LEANING MORE TO ATLANTIC UNION, GIVING US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO PAY IT OFF OR REFINANCE IT OR SOMETHING AT ANY POINT.

OTHERWISE, THE MINIMUM WE'RE LOCKED INTO IS EIGHT YEARS WITH THE EIGHT YEAR NO CALL VERSUS THE OTHER NO CALL, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL FIFTEEN YEAR TERM. SO MY RECOMMENDATION OR ON MY BEHALF, I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO PUTTING THE MILLION DOWN FINANCING FOUR SEVEN SEVEN FIVE WITH ATLANTIC UNION BEING OUR OPTION.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION YET UNTIL OTHER BOARD MEMBERS GET A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.

AND THEN ONCE PEOPLE WEIGH IN, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE THAT AS A MOTION.

MORE COMMENTS, PLEASE.

I AGREE. YOU AGREE? WE DON'T. SIR, GO AHEAD.

NO, I'LL JUST SAY [INAUDIBLE] IF HE AGREES.

IF YOU ALL AGREE, MAKE A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO MADAM CHAIR, WITH NO OTHER INPUT FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS, I SO MOVE THAT THE BOARD CHOOSES TO FOUR SEVEN SEVEN FIVE OPTION.

AND ALSO THE BOARD WOULD CHOOSE ATLANTIC UNION AS THE BANKING SOURCE THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH. ALL RIGHT, AND I'LL SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. WEBB.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. HUNTER.

YES, MR BROWN.

YES. MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. WORK WITH DAVENPORT AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] TO TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO CONTACT ATLANTIC UNION AND CLOSE BY MARCH 31ST. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS P-2 RESOLUTION THAT TO THE APPROPRIATION OF UP TO THREE MILLION SEVENTY ONE FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS IN DEBT PROCEEDS AND NO GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND BUDGET AMENDMENT MS. DREWRY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

BOARD MEMBERS THIS PUBLIC HEARING, INTRODUCTION OR PUBLIC HEARING IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE BOND ISSUANCE.

AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, THE BOARD APPROVES THAT CIP AS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET.

THE FUNDS ARE NOT APPROPRIATED TO THE CIP FUND WHEN THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED.

YOU TYPICALLY APPROPRIATE FUNDS AND APPROVE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS AS PROJECTS ARE PROVIDED TO YOU AND WHEN THE ORE AND OR WHEN THE BORROWING IS APPROVED.

WE RECAPPED ALREADY WHAT THE PROJECTS WERE FIVE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND IN TOTAL WITH INCLUDING ISSUANCE COSTS.

AND TO DATE, THE BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED AND COMPLETED REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS FOR TWO POINT SEVEN MILLION OF THAT FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE.

YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION TO APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS.

SO THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THAT FIVE MILLION SEVEN SEVENTY FIVE IS THREE MILLION SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND AND SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS.

THAT'S THE APPROPRIATION THAT IS NECESSARY.

WE DID ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE PROGRESS INDEX.

AGAIN, ONE AD IS REQUIRED FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THAT WAS RUN ON FEBRUARY THE 27TH.

THERE IS AGAIN NO NEED FOR A TAX INCREASE FOR THESE BONDS, AND WE WILL BEGIN REPAYING THOSE BONDS IN FY TWENTY THREE.

SO FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION TO MAKE THAT APPROPRIATION WITH BOND PROCEEDS AS THE REVENUE SOURCE OPTION ONE.

THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDED TWO OPTIONS.

ONE IS NOT USING FUND BALANCE, BORROWING THE FULL OR APPROPRIATING THE FULL AMOUNT WITH BOND REVENUE AS THE FUNDING SOURCE.

THE SECOND OPTION WAS TO USE ONE MILLION, WHICH THE BOARD DID EXPRESS ITS INTENT TO DO THAT. SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE OPTION TWO FOLLOWING PUBLIC INPUT.

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SEEING, NO ONE TO COME FORWARD.

I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM TO SPEAK.

YES, MA'AM, FOR ZOOM PARTICIPANTS, AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING FOR P2 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE AND BOND PROCEEDS.

PLEASE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTION SECTION.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE.

MADAM CHAIR, WE DO NOT SEE ANYONE RAISING THEIR HANDS.

SINCE THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK, I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BOARD MEMBERS? MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT OPTION TWO THE RESOLUTION. THERE ARE SECOND.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND SECONDED.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MR. WEBB.

YES. MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. BROWN.

YES. MR. HUNTER. YES, MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING REFERS TO AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE BY AMENDING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLANNED PRECINCT, BLAND PRECINCT AND COURTS BUILDING PRECINCT, AND TO CHANGE THE POLLING LOCATION FOR THE COURT BUILDING PRECINCT.

MR. WHITTEN. YES, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR. STOKE. PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON THE SPLIT PRECINCT ISSUE WE HAVE BETWEEN THE SEVENTY FIFTH AND THE EIGHTY SECOND.

A DISTRICT, BASICALLY WHEN THE STATE SUPREME COURT APPROVED THE REDISTRICTING, THERE WAS A SPLIT PRECINCT THAT WAS CREATED.

THE COURTS BUILDING PRECINCT, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO OF FOUR, WAS SPLIT BY THE NEW LINE BETWEEN THE SEVENTY FIFTH IN THE EIGHTY SECOND HOUSE OF DELEGATES.

VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 24.2-307 STATE EACH PRECINCT NEEDS TO BE WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN A SINGLE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

SENATE DISTRICT HOUSE OF DELEGATES DISTRICT AND ELECTION DISTRICT.

SO HERE'S A MAP KIND OF SHOWING THE ISSUE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BROWN AREA OF THE COURT'S PRECINCT THAT'S BELOW THE RED LINE.

SO THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED FROM THE COURT'S PRECINCT DOWN TO THE BLAND PRECINCT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SPLIT PRECINCT ISSUE.

SO BASICALLY, WE WORKED I WORKED WITH OUR GS COORDINATOR TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF VOTERS, REGISTERED VOTERS THAT WOULD MOVE TO THE BLAND PRECINCT.

CURRENTLY, THE COURTS BUILDING PRECINCT HAS THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR VOTERS AND THREE HUNDRED REGISTERED VOTERS WILL MOVE FROM THE COURTS PRECINCT TO THE BLAND PRECINCT. IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO COUNTY CODE SECTION 30-61.

AND CURRENTLY, THE BLAND PRECINCT HAS THIRTY SEVEN ZERO NINE VOTERS, AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF FIVE THOUSAND VOTERS.

SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE OF REACHING THE MAXIMUM AND EITHER A DISTRICT PRECINCT.

THE SOLUTION TO THE POLLING LOCATION.

BASICALLY, YOU NEED TO HAVE A POLLING LOCATION THAT'S LOCATED IN THE COURT'S BUILDING PRECINCT, CURRENTLY THE LOCATIONS AT THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET SINCE THAT'S NO LONGER LOCATED IN THE PRECINCT.

THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE AND THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS LOOK FOR A NEW LOCATION.

THEY DID FIND A NEW LOCATION, WHICH IS ABUNDANT LIFE CHURCH LOCATED ON MIDDLE ROAD.

THEY HAD BOARD OF ELECTIONS, HAS WORKED WITH ABUNDANT LIFE CHURCH, MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN MEET ALL THE NEEDS OF BEING A POLLING LOCATION, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO COUNTY CODE SECTION 30-62.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE CHANGES TO THE CODE? ANY QUESTION? NO [COUGHING] HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? THANK YOU. MR. WHITTEN.

I NOW OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING, NO ONE COMING FORWARD, I ASK THAT YOU SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. YES, MA'AM, FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS.

WELCOME AGAIN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION FOR P3.

PLEASE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE

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PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTIONS SECTION.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE.

MADAM CHAIR, THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED.

THANK YOU, MS. DREWRY.

SEEING NO ONE TO SPEAK.

I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT IS YOUR WISH? MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I MOVED TO APPROVE.

I WOULD SECOND.

THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE MRS. KNOTT. MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. BROWN. YES, MR. HUNTER. YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

MR. WEBB YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE NOW MOVE TO P4 THE ORDINANCE, ADOPTING THE EXISTING CODE OF THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE, SETTING BOUNDARIES OF ELECTORAL DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO.

MR. WHITTEN. YES, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR. STOKE. WE PREVIOUSLY LAST FALL WENT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ELECTORAL DISTRICTS AND THE REDISTRICTING AND WHETHER REDISTRICTING WAS NEEDED, AND WE DISCUSSED THE REDISTRICTING WASN'T WAS NOT NEEDED.

SO BUT NOW WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY APPROVE THE MAP THAT WILL THEN GO TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR CERTIFICATION.

SO QUICKLY GO TO THIS PRESENTATION JUST FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO THEN SEE IT FALL.

SO BASICALLY, WE DO HAVE TO REDISTRICT EVERY 10 YEARS AND ALL YEARS ENDING IN ONE.

SO IN 2021 SO WE DID GET THE DATA A LITTLE LATE BECAUSE OF COVID.

SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS IS DELAYED A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE GOAL IS TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING DISTRICTS, WHICH WE'RE DOING, PRESERVE [INAUDIBLE], PRESERVE VOTING BEHAVIOR AND PRESERVE COMMUNITY OF INTERESTS, WHICH ARE SUBDIVISIONS AND SMALL VILLAGES.

SO THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S THE FEDERAL AND THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS. THE DISTRICTS MUST BE MORE OR LESS EQUAL IN POPULATION BASED ON ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE AND NEARLY AS PRACTICABLE REPRESENTATION IN PROPORTION TO THE POPULATION OF THE DISTRICT. THE DISTRICTS MUST BE CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT, AND THE DISTRICT MUST NOT BE DRAWN TO DISCRIMINATE ON RACE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

WE MUST USE THE RECENT CENSUS NUMBERS.

LEGISLATIVE SERVICES HAS GIVEN US THAT DATA, AND WE HAVE MADE ALL THE CHANGES TO REFLECT THE PRESENT DATA AS WELL, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO REDRAW THE DISTRICTS IF POPULATION GROWTH NECESSITATED SUCH.

SO, PRISON, POPULATION BEGINNING OF THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE REDISTRICTING, THE STATE CODE CHANGE, WE'RE BASICALLY NOW ANY PERSON INCARCERATED IS COUNT AS A RESIDENT OF THE LOCALITY WHERE HE OR SHE SHE RESIDED PRIOR TO INCARCERATION.

SO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE IN THE REGIONAL JAIL, BUT THEY LIVE IN CHESTERFIELD AND THEY COUNT AS CHESTERFIELD.

SAME AS IF WE HAVE A PRINCE GEORGE RESIDENT AND A STATE PRISON ELSEWHERE.

THEN THEY WOULD COUNT AS PRINCE GEORGE RESIDENT.

SO THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE TOTAL COUNT WAS FORTY TWO THOUSAND ONE FIFTY FOUR AFTER ADJUSTING FOR PRISON NUMBERS DISTRICT ONE SEVENTEEN THOUSAND SIX NINETY ONE, WHICH IS FORTY TWO PERCENT, DISTRICT TWO, TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND FOUR SIXTY THREE, WHICH IS FIFTY EIGHT PERCENT. THE IDEAL SPLIT IS 40 60 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS IN DISTRICT ONE . THREE SUPERVISORS IN DISTRICT TWO, AND YOU NEED TO BE WITHIN THAT FIVE PERCENT DEVIATIONS AND WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE AT FOUR PERCENT DEVIATION.

SO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS WE LOOKED AT, THE EXISTING DISTRICTS MADE SURE THEY WERE CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT AND GAVE US THE EARLIEST PRACTICABLE REPRESENTATION PROPORTIONATE TO THE POPULATION OF THE DISTRICT AND CLEARLY DEFINED AND OBSERVABLE BOUNDARIES.

FIRST STANDARD IS MET.

THEY ARE CONTIGUOUS.

THEY ARE COMPACT, THE TWO DISTRICTS.

THERE IS EQUAL POPULATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NECESSARY ALLOW DEVIATIONS.

LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT.

NOT MORE THAN 10 PERCENT.

FOUR PERCENT. WE SHOULD BE FINE THERE.

WE HAVE CLEARLY DEFINED OBSERVABLE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE TWO DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE ANY NAME ROADS OR HIGHWAYS OR RIVERS OR STREAMS. SO REDISTRICTING IS NOW REQUIRED SINCE THERE'S LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT DEVIATION.

WE HAVE MET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE NEXT STEPS IS THAT THE BOARD WOULD ADOPT A ORDINANCE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WOULD ADOPT THE EXISTING ELECTORAL DISTRICTS AND THE BOUNDARIES OF SUCH ARE OUTLINED IN THE COUNTY CODE SECTIONS IN YOUR PACKET AND THE EXISTING ELECTORAL MAP WOULD THEN BE SENT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR CERTIFICATION AS WELL.

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HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE OR WE HAVE ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITTEN.

I NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZING ADOPTING THE EXISTING CODE, SETTING THE BOUNDARIES OF ELECTORAL DISTRICTS, IS THERE ANYONE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK FOR AND AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE? SEEING, NO ONE COME FORWARD.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK TO SEE IF ANYONE IS TO SPEAK ON ZOOM? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS.

WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING FOR P4.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTIONS SECTION NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE.

MADAM CHAIR, THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED.

THANK YOU. SINCE THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK ON HOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD, WHAT ARE YOUR WISHES? MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION FROM ANY BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE BOUNDARIES AS DISCUSSED BY MR. WHITTEN, THERE A SECOND.

SECOND. THANK YOU, MRS. KNOTT, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. WEBB.

YES. MR. CARMICHAEL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW WE GO ON TO P5, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED IN RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION ON BUXTON STREET.

MR. WHITTEN.

YES, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR. STOKE MAY SOUND LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY, BUT MARCH 8TH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PROPERTY SELLING IT AGAIN, EXCEPT OUR ORIGINAL BUYER BACKED OUT.

SO NOW WE DO HAVE A NEW BUYER.

WE DO HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW PRICE THAT'S BEEN OFFERED FOR THE PROPERTY. THE COUNTY DOES AT A 1.6 ACRE PARCEL ON RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION ON BUXTON STREET. THE PARCELS NO LONGER NEEDED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE MARKET WITH A REALTOR FOR SALE.

THE COUNTY ALSO OWNS TWO ADJACENT PARCELS ON BUXTON STREET.

THE ONCE ONE PARCEL HAS A COUNTY SEWER PUMP STATION ON IT AND WOULD NEED TO BE SUBDIVIDED SO THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY COULD BE SOLD.

AFTER THE DIVISION OF THE PROPERTY, THE REMAINING PROPERTIES WOULD NO LONGER BE NEEDED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND COULD BE CONVEYED.

THE BUYER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL SURVEY AND SUBDIVISION COSTS FOR THAT PARCEL AND OFFER TO PURCHASE ALL THREE PROPERTIES FOR FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND THE CONTRACT IS ATTACHED AND IS ENCLOSED IN YOUR PACKET.

THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WHO DESIRES TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING, NO ONE COMING FORWARD, I ASK THAT YOU CHECK WITH ZOOM, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM. FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. 4P5.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE REACTIONS SECTION TO BE RECOGNIZED.

PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HANDS.

MADAM CHAIR, THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED.

SINCE THERE'S NO ONE TO SPEAK, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, MADAM CHAIR? IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS, I MOVE TO ACCEPT A RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

SECOND THAT.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE MRS. KNOTT. MR. HUNTER.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. WEBB YES.

MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. BROWN. YES.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE NIGHT.

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TWO CONSENSUS, PLEASE.

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ONE CONSENSUS ITEM.

GOT A2. OH, ORDER CONSENSUS.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE APPROVE THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS? SO MOVE, MADAM CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. WEBB.

YES, MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES, MR. BROWN.

YES, MR. HUNTER. YES.

IS MRS. SMITH STILL ON CAN WE [INAUDIBLE]? THERE'S NO PRESENTATIONS, SO WE'LL HAVE SUPERVISORS COMMENTS.

ANY SUPERVISOR CARE TO COMMENT? NO, MA'AM. NOT TONIGHT.

NO, I HAVE NO COMMENT TONIGHT.

SHE'S HERE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT.

NO, MA'AM, I THINK BUDGET WAS WELL PRESENTED.

YEAH, WE WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF.

AND I WANT TO ASK EVERYONE TO PRAY FOR THE CONFLICT IN EUROPE.

WE WANT TO PRAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING, LOSING THEIR HOMES AND THEIR LIVES IN THIS CONFLICT [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, WE JUST PRAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WAR.

COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS COMMENTS? MADAM CHAIR, YOU DO HAVE MY REPORT AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ SOME BRIEF REMARKS INTO THE RECORD. WE LIVE IN TURBULENT TIMES.

THE POLITE TERM IS THAT THE MARKETS ARE IN FLUX.

THE GOAL IS NOT TO RANDOMLY SWAY WITH A LARGE WAVES, BUT TO CHART A STRONG AND STEADY COURSE THAT IS EVEN KEELED AND TAKES US THROUGH THIS ECONOMIC STORM TOGETHER.

WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN DISCUSSING A BUDGET THAT SERVES ALL THE TAXPAYERS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, SERVES THOSE IN NEED OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

THOSE IN NEED OF SOCIAL SERVICES SERVES THOSE WISHING TO ASPIRE TO A BETTER EDUCATION.

SERVES THOSE SEEKING JUSTICE IN OUR COURTS AND SERVES THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT MUST PERSEVERE INTO THE FUTURE.

WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SERVING OTHERS, CITIZENS WHO HELP OUR COMMUNITY GROW AND CITIZENS WHO ARE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE.

WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SERVING OTHERS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

UNDER THIS BOARD'S GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION, THE TREMENDOUS WORK OF STAFF AND I'M LOOKING AT MS. DREWRY AND THE UNWRITTEN COMMANDMENT THAT SAYS WE SHALL GIVE OUR CHILDREN BETTER THAN WE OURSELVES HAVE RECEIVED.

WE WILL BE INTRODUCING A BUDGET ON MARCH 22ND, FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS BOARD THAT LOWERS THE REAL PROPERTY TAX FROM EIGHTY SIX CENTS TO EIGHTY THREE CENTS, LOWERS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX FROM FOUR TWENTY FIVE TO THREE DOLLARS AND NINETY FIVE CENTS ELIMINATES THE MOTOR VEHICLE DECAL FEE AND PROVIDES EXCEPTIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR ALL THE CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN NOW AND MAY 10TH AS WE ADJUST THE INTRODUCED BUDGET TO FIT THE PRIORITIES AND DESIRES OF THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY PROFOUND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE NOW GO ON TO OUR REPORTS AND OUR FIRST REPORT IS VDOT CRYSTAL SMITH, WHO'S BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

I DON'T HAVE A SPEECH QUITE AS WELL-DONE AS MR. STOKE [INAUDIBLE], BUT YOUR INFORMATION FOR THIS MONTH IS IN YOUR BOARD PACKET.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.

OUR CREWS DID START ON JORDAN POINT WORKING ON REPAIRING THOSE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

NO, I'M SORRY, I'M WAVING HER.

OH OK.

[INAUDIBLE] ROAD IS STILL ON SCHEDULE.

BOTH THE FDR ON THE PAVEMENT AND THE DRAINAGE REPAIRS OUT THERE SOMETIME BETWEEN APRIL AND MAY. LET'S SEE THE ROUGH AND TURN TAPER THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.

WE DID RECEIVE THE PIPE, SO THAT PROJECT IS STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR THE EASTER BREAK.

WE HAVE THE CITIZENS INFORMATION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE CAFETERIA AT WALTON ELEMENTARY ON APRIL THE 19TH, SHOULD WE GET SEVERE WEATHER, THE MAKE UP DATE, THERE WOULD BE THE 28TH AND AGAIN, THAT IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING FOR THE CITIZENS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT AND HOW TO MANEUVER THROUGH THAT DESIGN.

AS YOU KNOW, THE WINTER HAS TAKEN A TOLL ONCE AGAIN ON OUR ROADWAYS, SO WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR POTHOLE BLITZ.

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WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING OUR SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN PROCESS SOON, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN APRIL ADVERTISEMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE HEARING WOULD BE HELD IN MAY WITH A RESOLUTION FROM THE BOARD.

YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ONE PROJECT IN YOUR PLAN, WHICH IS THE ROUNDABOUT AT MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON. IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES TO CONTINUE TO FUND THAT PROJECT, THERE WOULD BE NO WORK SESSION NECESSARY IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER REMOVAL OF THAT PROJECT AND ADDING A NEW PROJECT. WE WOULD BE GLAD TO HOLD A PRESENTATION AT THE WORK SESSION WITH RECOMMENDATIONS IN REGARDS TO YOUR SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION WE'VE BEEN WORKING THE RESIDENTS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROJECT MANAGERS, SOME CONSULTANTS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON SOME ALTERNATIVES TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

WE DID GET SOME INFORMATION BACK ON A FAIRLY NEW DESIGN.

IT'S CALLED A GREEN TEA.

IT WOULD BE AN INTERIM TYPE OF RESOLUTION, IN MY OPINION.

IT WOULD NOT BE A DESIGN THAT WOULD BE A FINAL, YOU KNOW, DESIGN FOR THAT AREA TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE NEW SCHOOL AND THE GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS BASED ON THE DESIGN THAT I HAVE SEEN, IT'S A VERY INEXPENSIVE INTERIM THAT PROBABLY STATE FORCES COULD CONSTRUCT IF THE BOARD IS INTERESTED.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND SOME SAMPLES OF THE DESIGN.

I'M ONLY AWARE OF ONE OTHER LOCATION IN VIRGINIA RIGHT NOW.

THERE MAY BE OTHERS.

I'M ONLY AWARE OF ONE IN OUR DISTRICT.

I CAN TRY TO GET PHOTOS OF THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE A WORK SESSION PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN HOW IT WOULD FUNCTION, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT OTHER ONE IS? I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST KNOW THERE IS ONE OTHER ONE.

WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, I GOT THE DESIGN AND THE PROJECT MANAGER SAID THERE WAS ONE OTHER SIMILAR ONE IN THE DISTRICT THAT HE COULD GET ME INFORMATION ON.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

WHAT WAS THE? I KNOW YOU HAD SENT ME AN EMAIL, BUT WHEN ARE WE LOOKING TO ADVERTISE REGARDING THAT NO THROUGH TRUCKS? OH, I'M SORRY.

THE NO THROUGH TRUCKS RESTRICTION.

SO ALL THE FINAL EDITS ARE DONE THIS.

THE SUSSEX COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAS APPROVED IT, TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND HAS APPROVED IT.

ALL I'M WAITING ON NOW IS FOR THE SUSSEX BOARD TO LET ME KNOW WHEN THEY WANT TO HOLD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WHEN WE ADVERTISE, WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE PRINCE GEORGE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE SUSSEX PUBLIC HEARING IN THE ADVERTISEMENT.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M WAITING ON.

ONCE I GET THAT, I'LL GET MS. KNOTT THE ADVERTISEMENT DRAFT AND IT'LL BE READY TO GO.

OK. AND YOU MUST HAVE LOOKED IN YOUR CRYSTAL BALL BECAUSE YOU MUST HAVE KNOWN I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU SOMETHING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF INTERIM SOLUTION FOR MIDDLE ROAD.

IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS AND REALLY I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO OUR DISTRICT STAFF.

THEY'VE REALLY REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET SOME IDEAS, FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE INTERIM TYPE IDEAS AND JUST LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT REALLY A BAD DESIGN.

YEAH. AND WE JUST KNOW WE CAN'T GO THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND LEAVE THAT THE WAY IT IS WITH THAT SCHOOL GOING ON.

YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM.

I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH SOME DRAWINGS ON IT AND YOU GUYS CAN LET ME KNOW AND WOMEN CAN LET ME KNOW. SLANG TERM.

I'M SOUTHERN. SORRY.

IT'S ALL GOOD. BUT YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR PRESENTATION, AND I CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU TOO. OKAY.

PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE] AND INOPERABLE VEHICLES.

YOU WANT FIRST. OK.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR. STOKE MR. WHITTEN BRIEFLY, I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH MY PRESENTATION AGAIN.

I'M WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

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JUST TRY TO TOUCH ON THE HIGHLIGHTS AND MOVE THROUGH THIS AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

PRETTY SURE, WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR IT'S MY THIRD OR FOURTH TIME DOING THIS, BUT THIS MOVES TO POINT OUT THE HIGHLIGHTS AGAIN.

THIS YEAR WE ARE ENFORCING THE 2018 CODE CYCLE.

RIGHT HERE, WE JUST HAVE A DEPICTION OF THE ESCALATION CHART AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE ARE MAKING INITIAL CONTACT WITH THE INVESTIGATING COMPLAINTS.

IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE IN THAT INITIAL CONTACT, THEN WE'LL MOVE UP THE CHART ISSUE EITHER CORRECTION OR VIOLATION NOTICES.

AND ALSO, YOU'LL SEE HERE WE HAVE ESCALATED CONTRACTOR ABATEMENT LEVEL HERE, WHERE WE HAVE COUNTY PROVISIONS FOR ABATEMENTS OF CERTAIN VEGETATION AND TRASH VIOLATIONS.

AND WE CAN DEPLOY COUNTY APPOINTED CONTRACTORS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS EXPENSE AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL, AS YOU SEE HERE, IS WE HAVE TO UNFORTUNATELY END UP IN COURT WITH LITIGATION TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE.

RIGHT HERE, THIS JUST SHOWS THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AT ANY GIVEN TIME THAT WE WORK WITH TO ASSIST OUR CITIZENS.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DQ SOCIAL SERVICES AND ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION.

WE ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT VDOT IS A VERY VITAL ROLE IN MAINTAINING THE ROADWAYS OF THE COUNTY. WE ALSO CONDUCT MONTHLY STATUS UPDATE MEETINGS IN WHICH WE MEET WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY POLICING AND MYSELF PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL. WE STRIVE TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENT CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL, EXCUSE ME, AND RECEIVE LEGAL GUIDANCE AS WE PURSUE SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THE MORE CHALLENGING CASES. I HEAR SOME OF MY HIGHLIGHTS FROM LAST YEAR.

WE INVESTIGATED A TOTAL OF 313 PROPERTY COMPLAINTS.

OF THOSE, WE WERE ABLE TO CLOSE OR RESOLVED.

TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN OF THOSE RESULTED IN 95 PERCENT COMPLIANCE RATE.

WE WERE ABLE TO PRODUCE 191 ENFORCEMENT DOCUMENTS AS WELL.

OBVIOUSLY, ALL COMPLAINTS ARE NOT GOING TO RESULT IN VIOLATION, BUT THOSE DOING DID RESULT IN US CONDUCTING 676 SITE INSPECTIONS LAST YEAR.

OH, HERE'S SOME MORE, SOME MORE HIGHLIGHTS OF LAST YEAR'S TOTALS, APPROXIMATELY A THIRD OF THE COMPLAINTS OF VEGETATION AND TALL GRASS COMPLAINTS, AND AGAIN, TO REITERATE, WE USE CONTRACTORS LAST YEAR TO ABATE 15 OF THOSE CASES.

FIVE UNSAFE NOTICES ALSO WERE ISSUED REGARDING PROPERTIES THAT WERE DEEMED UNLIVABLE AT THAT TIME. AND HERE WE HAVE A SNAPSHOT OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN WHICH YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A PRETTY CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND TRYING TO SERVE THEM AND AS BEST AS MANY AS WE CAN.

LAST YEAR, AGAIN, WE'VE ISSUED 191 NOTICES, THOSE NOTICES INVOLVES CORRECTIVE NOTICES, NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS AND UNSAFE NOTICES, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND WE CAN BE CONTACTED IN VARIOUS WAYS, WHETHER IT BE BY PHONE, EMAIL, MAIL OR IN PERSON. AND IT IS OUR MISSION TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AS BEST AS WE CAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE GETTING A LOT DONE IN ONLY ONE COURT CASE OUT OF ALL OF THOSE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BEING EFFECTIVE GETTING GETTING THINGS RESOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. YES, SIR.

WE DEFINITELY TRY TO HAVE THE LAST CARD UNLESS WE HAVE TO PLAY IT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. HARD ACT TO FOLLOW, LIEUTENANT BARROW.

I AGREE THERE IS.

MADAM CHAIR, VICE CHAIRMAN, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. WHITTEN AND MR. STOKE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TONIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR INOPERATIVE VEHICLE REPORT FROM LAST YEAR. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE INOPERATIVE VEHICLE ORDINANCE THAT'S PUT OUT IS BASICALLY

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AND JUST KIND OF GOES OVER THE CODE SECTION HERE IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE ON THAT.

ONCE WE CITE A VEHICLE, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OF 10 DAYS TO BRING THAT VEHICLE INTO COMPLIANCE IF THAT VEHICLE IS NOT IN COMPLIED WITH IN 10 DAYS.

WE THEN SEND THE CASE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MR. WHITTEN OFFICE REVIEWS.

IT VERIFIES IT IS IN VIOLATION AND THEN SENDS A CERTIFIED NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND IF WE CAN LOCATE THE VEHICLE OWNER AS WELL.

AND WHY DO WE DO THIS? WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY IMAGE, FACILITATE EMERGENCY ACCESS TO HOMES, ELIMINATE SITES WHERE DEBRIS CAN GATHER ABANDONED OR STORED VEHICLES CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO CHILDREN AND RODENTS AND OTHER [INAUDIBLE] MAY INHABIT AN OPERATIVE VEHICLES AND CARRY DISEASES AND END THEIR HARMFUL HEALTH ISSUES TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS DATING BACK TO 2013, WE STARTED OUT WITH 68 COMPLAINTS AND WE GOT AS HIGH AS IN 2020 442 COMPLAINTS.

WELL, THIS PAST YEAR WE ENDED UP WITH TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO COMPLAINTS, WITH OUT OF THOSE TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE COMPLAINT CASES.

SO THEY'VE EITHER PUT THE VEHICLE IN A GARAGE BEHIND A FENCE OR BROUGHT IT INTO COMPLIANCE BY THEIR INSPECTION OR STATE PLATE.

SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENT.

IT'S NEVER BEEN THE INTENT FROM THE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT A MONEY REVENUE GENERATING ISSUE.

IT'S JUST TO TRY TO CLEAN UP OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IN MOST CASES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND TRYING TO GAIN COMPLIANCE.

AND LAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF 97 PERCENT IN COMPLIANCE.

SO IN TOTAL, DURING THAT TIME FRAME, THOSE NINE YEARS, WE HAD OVER 2011 TOTAL CASES, 1823 COMPLIANCE THAT PUT US RIGHT AROUND 91 PERCENT IN NINE YEARS.

LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO CASES.

TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, EITHER REMOVED OR BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE.

AND WE'RE CURRENTLY SITTING AT 97 PERCENT, WITH EIGHT CASES STILL PENDING FROM THE END OF DECEMBER 2021.

COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD SENT OUT 52 CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND LAST YEAR WE ONLY HAD TO REMOVE ONE VEHICLE VIA TOW.

SO AGAIN, OUR OUR OBJECT IS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THE BEST THAT WE CAN IN THIS CASE. WE ENDED UP HAVING TO TOW THE VEHICLE.

WE CERTAINLY CAN BE REACHED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY POLICING PRINCE GEORGE EMAIL THERE, AND THEY CAN REACH US AT EIGHT SIX THREE EIGHTEEN FORTY-SEVEN AND WE'LL INVESTIGATE ANY COMPLAINT THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE OR THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY THERE TO SERVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST A COMMENT, JUST EXPLANATION FOR THE PUBLIC.

I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SHARED THIS WITH ME.

STATE CODE I THOUGHT YOU TOLD ME SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS VEHICLE FROM THE STATE ROAD, RIGHT? CORRECT. UNLESS WE GET A COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT SAYS, I INVITE YOU TO STEP IN MY BACKYARD AND SEE WHAT I LOOK AT EACH DAY.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN THEN SUBMIT THE CASE.

WELL, OK. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD ONE. THERE ARE NO POSTPONED ITEMS THAT I'M AWARE OF.

SO WE GO ON TO A1 CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS.

A RESOLUTION APPOINTMENT FOR THE THREE YEAR TERM TO THE BOARD OF GRIEVANCE APPEALS.

MADAM CHAIR MR. STEVE BROCKWELL HAS SERVED ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

VERY SELDOM DO THEY EVER MEET.

WE HAVE NO OTHER APPLICANTS, AS WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER.

TO STAY ON THIS, THIS BOARD SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT STEVE BROCKWELL WILL CONTINUE FOR THE THREE YEAR TERM. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT. MRS. WAYMACK.

YES, MR. HUNTER.

YES.

MR. BROWN. YES, MR. CARMICHAEL. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

THE IS A RESOLUTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE APPOINTMENT, AN INTERIM TERM TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

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WE'VE HAD ONE APPLICANT, SO I SO MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND MR. NORRIS NAME TO THE JUDGE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS APPOINTMENT, AND THE NAME IS JOSHUA NORRIS.

AND I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT? MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. CARMICHAEL. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

NOW WE HAVE A2 LETTER.

YES, MA'AM TO SUPPORT.

YES, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIR.

I RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE MAYOR OF PETERSBERG ASKING GOING OVER EXPLAINING THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE SOME GRANT MONEY THAT WOULD HELP WITH THEIR POOR CREEK SANITARY SEWER AND WATER SERVICE AREA.

FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT PROP THAT WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY THAT BORDERS WITH PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY OUT ON CRATER ROAD AND ALSO AS YOU CROSS OVER INTERSTATE 95, AS YOU'RE COMING IN TO PRINCE GEORGE AND BOTH OF THOSE AREAS, IF THEY COULD GET THAT ADDITION, WOULD DEFINITELY HELP US OUT IN THOSE AREAS AND ALSO DOWN THREE ZERO ONE.

SO THIS IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FOR THE CITY OF PETERSBERG TO SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY OF THEM RECEIVING HOPEFULLY SOME GRANT MONIES FOR THIS. WELL, STATED, MR. BROWN, AND I WAS SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MRS. KNOTT? MR. BROWN.

YES. MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES, MR. HUNTER. YES.

I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD? OK. ALL RIGHT.

HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THE MARCH 16TH BUDGET WORK SESSION IS CANCELED IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3712.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ANNOUNCING IN AN OPEN MEETING THAT A CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL BE HELD AT AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION WITHIN THE NEXT 15 DAYS.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC MEETING IS MARCH THE 22ND.

SO MOVE, MA'AM, AS YOU JUST READ.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

DO YOU NEED TO CALL THE ROLL ON THAT? THAT WAS A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT, YES.

OH, OK.

ALL RIGHT. OH, YOU DO.

WE DO VOTE ON THAT.

SO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE MRS. KNOTT. WE GOT TO RESTATE A MOTION FOR THAT, RIGHT? RESTATE THE MOTION.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS ANNOUNCING IN AN OPEN MEETING THAT A CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SHALL BE HELD IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION WITHIN THE NEXT 15 DAYS.

MAKE A MOTION WE GO TO AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION WITHIN THE NEXT 15 DAYS FOR A CLOSED SESSION MEETING, AND I'LL SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU. CALL THE MRS. KNOTT PLEASE. MR. CARMICHAEL.

YES. MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES, MR. HUNTER.

YES, MR. BROWN.

YES. OUR NEXT PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE MARCH THE 22ND.

MAKE A MOTION, WE ADJOURN UNTIL THE 22ND AT 5:00.

YES. YEAH.

IT WAS SECOND BY MR. WEBB, SECOND.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MRS. KNOTT? MR. WEBB.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. CARMICHAEL. YES, THANK YOU.

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